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Balanced nothing. There is no vibration. The pipe itself is balanced from the factory. The most important thing is not to shift the centering and that's it. Who balanced them before? Changed the crosspieces on the Zhiguli and on the road.
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To this I am writing everything. That balancing is superfluous. After all, I did not digest forks. How to do when repairing services.
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I did not have vibration even when the front crosspiece on the factory cardan was displaced. The vibration was once with a jammed rear cross.
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And firms make money out of thin air. This procedure for replacing the crosspieces should cost no more than 5 thousand rubles with balancing and spare parts.
Balanced nothing. There is no vibration. The pipe itself is balanced from the factory. The most important thing is not to shift the centering and that's it. Who balanced them before? Changed the crosspieces on the Zhiguli and on the road.
———- Added at 12:23 ———- Previously written at 12:21 ———-
To this I am writing everything. That balancing is superfluous. After all, I did not digest forks. How to do when repairing services.
———- Added at 12:24 ———- Previously written at 12:23 ———-
I did not have vibration even when the front crosspiece on the factory cardan was displaced. The vibration was once with a jammed rear cross.
———- Added at 12:27 ———- Previously written at 12:24 ———-
And firms make money out of thin air. This procedure for replacing the crosspieces should cost no more than 5 thousand rubles with balancing and spare parts.
Only two years ago Renault has been producing the last of the latest generation Duster models. The previous version had lower power (90 versus 109) and torque (200 versus 240). In addition, the design has slightly changed, comfort has increased and some options have been added.
As the happy owners of this model noted, the ride has become smoother and the engine is quiet. For the rest, the Duster remained one of the favorites among fans of high cross-country vehicles. Despite the fact that the Frenchman seemed to be preparing for European roads, in Russia he quickly made his way over poor surface on a par with domestic SUVs.
Meanwhile, any foreign cars sometime require repair, and here their owners may face the problem of components. Not all parts from the predecessor generation models will fit the new product. Among such details is the universal joint on the Duster.
What kind of breakdowns is he prone to?
Where can you get it at a low price and good quality?
How to remove the old one and install the new one?
If you ask such questions, then the answers of the masters of our car service are addressed to you!
This model has two cardan shafts that perform the same function - transferring power from the gearbox to the axles. They belong to the open type with spline joints and hinges.
Among these distinctive characteristics are:
Dimensions. The front shaft tube is about 1/3 shorter.
Number of connections. The rear propeller drive of some models and modifications may also have an intermediate shaft with clamps and crosses.
Structure. To lighten the weight, the front propeller shaft on the Duster is usually hollow, while the rear one is made of steel.
Technical characteristics of components. The hinges and crosspieces on the shafts are installed differently.
The first thing that will indicate a malfunction is strong vibration emanating from under the bottom. The breakdown is also expressed in characteristic sounds, but they can not always be heard from the passenger compartment - in this, good sound insulation does not play into the hands.
The higher the speed, the more noise and vibration appear. The shaft itself has a very high resource - up to 500 thousand kilometers. But more often it is not the pipes themselves that suffer (only in case of imbalance), but the joints. It is worth making a preliminary and thorough inspection for a start.
It may turn out that the whole point is that the fastenings of the suspension clamps are loose. The crosspieces, for example, can wear out even after fifty kilometers. In such cases, the expenses of the car enthusiast will be minimal, and repairs in our car service will not take much time.
The causes of breakdowns can be both commonplace - for example, wear due to the development of a resource, and specific - a lack of driving experience from a motorist.
Among the most common reasons, masters distinguish:
collisions with obstacles at high speed, as well as abrupt starts from a standstill;
uneven roads (frequent driving on them disables the cardan several times faster);
lack of lubrication at the joints.
crosses, bearings, seals are worn out.
Separately, it should be said about the installation of the cardan after its failure. In this regard, there is a risk:
purchase and install defective parts, used or unbalanced shaft.
use the services of masters who do not give a guarantee for their services. Worst of all, if they are self-taught, with no experience or equipment.
Comfortable conditions and good lighting can affect the quality of the inspection. That is, it is better to conduct it on a viewing pit or using a flyover. But still, a lift is better suited, thanks to which the car can be lifted both front and rear for free wheel rotation.
Obligatory checks are subject to:
Fasteners, the strength of their tightening.
Outboard bearing condition.
The condition of the seals (they should not be cracked).
Splined connection (you need to fix the shaft and twist the coupling).
Backlash in hinges.
It is rather difficult to carry out a full diagnosis of Duster on your own - only an inspection, so that you can first find out the causes of breakdowns and calculate the cost of repair and replacement of parts. Unbalancing in the “old fashioned way” with the use of weights in a garage is not always accurate. You can check and fix it on special equipment.
These parts are the most vulnerable - this is evidenced by the statistics of customer requests to a car service for their replacement. The outboard bearing will wear out quickly without lubrication. But it can also be damaged from the impact of cardan shafts on some kind of elevation.
Advice for Renault Duster owners - the outboard bearing of the right-hand drive is similar in structure and principle of operation to the outboard bearing of the universal joint. However, it is extremely difficult to shoot it without the press and the help of the masters.
The price for all components of the cardan transmission is different in all cities. Even on the Internet, the price difference amazes the owners of this car. But with the purchase you need to be careful.For example, the price of a Renault Duster crosspiece from some suppliers (which, in principle, cannot be checked) is junk, from others (usually official dealers) it seems overpriced. What's the secret? Why can a 19 × 55.5 universal joint shaft cross from different manufacturers differ significantly?
Used parts are available. They will last much less than new ones - they usually already have cracks and chips. The only advantage is the low price.
Counterfeits or defective ones are offered. Someone can build a business on this, and there are times when, having discovered defects, the crosspieces are sold by the motorists themselves.
Analogs are proposed. They are not always of good quality, and sometimes outright fakes are also present on the market. A similar part from other manufacturers is not always a bad thing. The main thing is to buy from trusted suppliers. Better yet, install with the purchase of a purchase at a car service, where a guarantee is given.
Among the manufacturers for Duster, it is worth trying the GUM brand, article number: GUM92 and GUM73, ACDELCO 45U0120, Febest ASRN-DUST 19X55.5 370002820R, 320003602R, etc.
you don't have time to find the Duster gimbal;
you are in doubt about the choice of quality parts;
you do not have experience in the diagnosis and repair of cardan transmission;
you do not want to pay twice for the repair, but make it quickly and at an inexpensive price
Not so long ago, the second generation of the inexpensive urban crossover Renault Duster was released. The rich experience of operating this car made it possible not only to identify all the advantages and disadvantages of this model, but also to identify weaknesses, the most frequent problems of Renault Duster, malfunctions and ways to solve them. It is about them that we will talk today.
Do not be afraid of problems in Renault Duster that arise in the engine associated with the use of low-quality fuel and are often solved by replacing the fuel filter and refueling as soon as possible with high-quality gasoline.
If the Check Engine warning light comes on, you should start looking for the source of the malfunction in the low-quality fuel in the engine. If refueling has already been made, and the light comes on and does not go out, you should pay attention to the filter. This applies equally to both 2.0-liter gasoline engines and diesel engines.
The problem that has arisen is especially dangerous when the indicator lights up on a diesel engine, because the thickened "diesel fuel" can destroy a high-pressure fuel pump, replacing it with a Renault Duster costs a lot of money, and the video shows that this procedure is extremely difficult.
If all the recommended actions to change the filter and fuel have already been performed, and the indicator lights up and still does not go out, you should connect the laptop to the car's diagnostic connector and erase the error. You can fix it yourself by purchasing a special adapter, which is sold in any specialized car dealership.
Often, repairs in Renault Duster are made from the side of the salon. Regardless of whether the gasoline engine is installed on the car, or the power unit is diesel, often in winter or in the rain, as well as during constant operation of the air conditioner without timely maintenance, condensation accumulates under the driver's mat.
This problem has been resolved for all Renault Duster built after 2013, however not everyone is so lucky. You cannot solve this problem with your own hands: you will have to disassemble the air conditioning system and replace the rubber gasket of the pipe.
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However, such work on Renault Duster is inexpensive and will not take much time when servicing in a service.
Due to the use of complex electronics, Renault Duster often fails with an all-wheel drive electrician. When driving in 1st or 2nd gear, both on gasoline engines 1.6 and 2.0, and on a diesel engine, the forced engagement mode of the rear axle is spontaneously disabled.
This behavior is caused by improper operation of the ECU, and the problem is easily solved without serious interference with the operation of the mechanical components.Such a problem is eliminated by doing it yourself, using the same programmer. A video on working with it can be found on the disc included in the kit.
If the reprogramming of the ECU did not solve this problem, then you should pay attention to the electric oil pump, the sensors of which can also malfunction and prevent the rear axle from turning on at a certain engine operating mode. If the gear oil in the clutch is changed in a timely manner and the machine is protected from excessively harsh operating conditions, the sensor will not stop working. Replacement videos can be easily found on the net.
A certain drawback of Renault Duster is the lack of sensors responsible for the malfunction of the transmission and transfer case. Malfunctions in their work will have to be looked for on their own, by raising the machine on a lift. Here you should pay attention to the transfer case oil seals.
If obvious oil stains are visible on them, this indicates that the oil seals will have to be changed. As practice shows, most often cars equipped with 2.0-liter gasoline engines suffer from such a disease, when, like a diesel engine paired with an all-wheel drive, such breakdowns are less disturbing.
The problem is determined by incorrect operating conditions, therefore, first of all, it is necessary to change the transmission oil in a timely manner and replace the oil seals as soon as even the slightest malfunction in their operation is identified.
Especially often the Renault Duster suspension suffers from "diseases". This is due to the particularly harsh Russian operating conditions: poor roads, frequent changes in humidity and temperature cannot but affect the state of the suspension of any car.
Suspension elements that are most susceptible to damage are shock absorber struts, springs, front and rear arm bushings, as well as pivot and wheel bearings. All these parts are easily replaced with your own hands, you just need to study the corresponding videos on work and stock up on the necessary tools.
It is not worth delaying with the repair of the suspension, untimely replacement of the necessary components can lead to breakdowns of other elements, the cost of which can be quite high.
Making a conclusion about how reliable a car such as Renault Duster is, one can express just one important thought. If you timely diagnose and repair the suspension and the technical part of the car, carefully follow all the manufacturer's recommendations, then your car will serve faithfully for many years and will never fail at the most crucial moment.
External signs of cardan transmission malfunctions are: increased noise, vibration, knocking when starting off and shifting gears. The reasons for these phenomena can be increased wear of the bearings and crossings in the hinges, the bearing of the intermediate support, loss of balancing plates, loosening of the bolts fastening the flanges of the propeller shaft forks to the flanges of the electromagnetic clutch and transfer case. We carry out the work on a viewing ditch or overpass.
Using a spanner wrench "16", unscrew the bolt securing the rear propeller shaft hinge fork to the electromagnetic clutch flange. Turning the shaft (for this, you can roll the car a little), similarly unscrew the other three bolts securing the hinge fork.
By sliding the shaft forward, we remove the centering collar of the hinge fork flange from the electromagnetic clutch flange. We tie the cardan joint to the flange of the electromagnetic clutch with a wire.
Using the "13" head, unscrew the two bolts securing the bracket of the intermediate support to the bottom of the body.
Using the "16" head with an extension cord, we unscrew the bolts securing the front propeller shaft hinge fork to the flange of the transfer case output shaft ...
… And by sliding the propeller shaft back, remove the centering collar of the pivot yoke flange from the flange of the transfer case output shaft.
We remove the cardan transmission. Install the cardan transmission in reverse order.
Tipok is so thoughtful, he collects everything for himself. Business with a duster. You write a letter to these assholes, they say, you cretins, we make money on your occasion. Shit)
the crosspieces wedge due to the evaporation of the lubricant))) it will not work to lubricate))) cardan repair ONLY FOR SALE of a car.A new cardan at a dealer 30 rubles. I have jammed both crosspieces for 89,000
Please write down the repair process. Renault Duster ..
I fully support Febest components, I haven’t tried cross-pieces, their bearings suck.
Blah, blah, blah, there is nothing for 8 minutes. I would say that apart from us no one would do anything and would add qualitatively. Things are for 1 minute.
How much does it cost to repair a gimbal? As far as I understand, you are stationed in Kazan? And how long does this repair take?
Mikhail, the repair of the driveshaft depends on the damage, also on the brand of car, we are not only in Kazan, our branches are also located in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Ufa, Naberezhnye Chelny, etc., you can see more details on our official website>
The link would be written to your service
I checked at 80,000, and ball and cardan. All right. Changed the current front silent blocks
Half of the video is about nothing. It is difficult to go straight to the point. I sat scrolling through the video looking for key moments.
Where can I find you? Repair the cardan?
+ Valery Konstantinov non-puss
Cardan from 13 years old with grease fittings and retaining rings what are the problems
Kazan Road lane 3 k1, you can also familiarize yourself with our official website>
The new original cardan stands in Moscow from 17000, cardan repair + 2 crosses 12000-14000. FEBEST crosses are frank slag, the cup size is 18.7 instead of 19.2, the inner neck is several times thinner (whoever held this cross in his hands, he will understand), the price of such a cross is 2.5 times more than GMB GUD81 or GMB GUM92 size 78x548x20, price 500-600 p. The crosses on the original cardan, depending on the driving style, begin to play by 60,000-80000 mileage, the crosses on the restored cardan are enough for 30,000-40,000 mileage, that is, approximately 1 year in time.
everyone has different runs, respectively, it turns out, I have from 3000 to 5000 per month
1 year, God forbid I can hit 10,000 in a year ..
Well, this video is not about anything. everything is very correct, we also put crosses from Honda and walk great, and also under the guarantee of more than one return, the resource of new crosses is 50-100 t.km. who goes where. And your suppliers have pumped up there are already on sale and good crosspieces, WD around 2700r. INA 1300 rub. how can we tell colleagues in gimbal business where such crosses live? phone on the site We switched to INA, if possible, if they have the right size or WD if there is no size then we put GMB, and Febest crosses like rubbish are lying around the shop, although new ones are lying around, not sometimes Febest is not bad and they say that they walk at 150k. but their size is lame, there is no chamfer to fit the cup normally, the anthers are bullshit and the lifespan of the cross depends on them
There is no new cardan 35 k. Syzran 18 k with delivery.
called the dealer and called the price 34,500 and it turned out to be the cheapest option in Nizhny
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Hello! Please specify at what mileage do the problems with the cardan begin? And is it possible to avoid (delay) them on a new machine, and how to do it?