DIY Peugeot 3008 engine repair

I remembered one more thing. Immediately after 20 thousand km of run, traces of oil began to appear on the valve cover, more and more. I replaced the valve cover gasket, but that was enough for 8-10 thousand km, then it “flooded” again and even more. The dealer's advice is to replace the valve cover, since supposedly on these machines they are from the factory with a technical defect. As a result, he did not change it, but once again replaced the gasket (it was included in the set of service work to replace the timing chain).

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After replacing the turbine and repairing the injection pump, the following happened:

The vacuum pump (the one that took the used one) has broken down. When replacing it with a new one, the servicemen were surprised by the valves clogged to zero, the verdict - all the same ghouls from Renissance who did not replace the oil filter. Replaced, remembered them with a kind word.

The injection pump started to malfunction, I came to MadPistons, those guys who restored both the injection pump and the turbine, cleaned the engine the last time. Changed to another reconditioned one, it turns out that I was the firstborn to whom they repaired.

The high-pressure fuel pump broke down - the reason is not clear, apparently a small resource and how lucky, judging by the logic, this is a fuel pump, 95-98 Lukoil, Gazprom, sometimes Rosneft were always refueled. New 25-27 tr.

The fact that the fuel injection pump ends up knew, understood, but refused to believe, AS SO KARL, the fuel pump KARL. as he could. But no, I could, like ours without doping. )))

The car did not move, the gas was on the floor and there was no dynamics. Then something began to whistle, rattle. I went to my vaunted Renissance service, which is in the Moscow shopping center on Kashirka.

Hello everyone! And spiteful critics of the PSA brand too. I will gladly wait for comments that the car fell down, especially if it is constructive (what to replace, where and how).

EP6 second Engine 1.6 l. developed jointly by Peugeot and BMW. Its predecessor is similar ICE (Internal combustion engine) EP6DT - 1598cc
Over time, this engine will replace the TU5JP4.

The feature of the EP6 engine for the Peugeot 308,408 and 3008 is based on the use of an intake valve control system and the development of an output of 88 kW, which is 120 hp. at 6000 rpm with Euro 4 emission standard.

The ep6 cylinder head is made of light-alloy aluminum according to the principle of making in a disposable mold, the dummy of the block head is made of polystyrene, then embedded in resin. When casting, the alloy replaces the polystyrene model.

The block head cover is made of composite materials, it has an oil separator, the tightness is achieved by 7 rubber gaskets.

This technology of the molding shape ensures high accuracy and correctness of various channels and shapes in the cylinder head. (Cylinder head)

Each camshaft contains:

• valve timing regulators,
• hydraulic pressure control valves for phase shifters
• targets for the camshaft sensor,
• vacuum pump drive,

Intake valve opening control is carried out by means of an additional intermediate shaft and an electric motor.

The intake valve opening control system includes several elements:

• Electric motor
• Intermediate shaft
• Intermediate cams
• Intermediate shaft position sensor
• Intake camshaft
• Return springs

1. Intermediate shaft
2. Adjustment drive
3. Intermediate cams
4. Cam
5. Hydraulic compensator
6. Inlet valve
7. Increasing valve travel

A vacuum pump drive is installed on the exhaust camshaft to ensure comfortable braking.

Phase regulators on ep6 (phase shifters) work within certain limits, such as on the inlet shaft, the offset angle is 35 °, on the exhaust shaft 30 °, so they are marked with IN 35 (inlet), EX 30 (release).

Solenoid valves are installed on both sides of the cylinder head, which are controlled by the engine computer and regulate the displacement of the phase shifters.

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And why consult with me, 3 years ago, both resources dedicated to 308 and sitroclab. already dazzled with headlines about the jambs of the turbo engine and the praise of 2 liter diesel engines. to talk about working tools, forums are not a very bad tool in terms of buying a car, and its maintenance. If you have any questions about spare parts and diagnostics, please.
P.S. 3 years ago I did not practice Peugeot, but suffered, and 4 years ago they changed the engine on my 308)

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This is the problem of the Russians! Although it is already good that ALKU (automatic transmission AL4) stopped hait)))

Uv. Konstantin74, if we talk about advertising, then apparently you did not use it) Otherwise, you would know that my name is Nikolai and this is my real name. I did not have any commercial activity except for the sale of a pair of high-pressure fuel pumps at very good prices.
I will definitely follow your and Natalia's advice and will definitely write off with him. At the same time, the EP6dt motor, as its variations, has a very nasty character and low maintainability. and only a few owners enjoy it.

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60 000 km of run after a semi-capital repair of the engine - removal of the cylinder head, revision and cleaning, replacement of the MSC, replacement of the timing belt and we can not remember anything else. Further, the replacement of the piston rings. The problem with the butter oil was gone and began to slowly return after

40-50 mk, 300-500 grams per 1,000 km of run. During this period of time - replacement of candles (2 times), replacement of the ignition coil, oil change (8-9 TC), filters, etc. according to the regulations. Gasoline (95th) did not gobble up, power and throttle response flawlessly.
This is all a preamble, and now it is itself.
The hard one carried me to Tula, 80 km from Moscow, the engine zatroil, lit an error and refused to go. After a short diagnosis by phone, calling a tow truck and a trip to the service to a trusted friend (in general, he carried out work on replacing rings in the CPG), RUB 6,500 like from a bush. What we managed to find out so far:
1.Fused piston in the 2nd cylinder with a seizure of the cylinder itself
2.dead nozzle
The preliminary price tag for overhaul of the engine was announced - 131,000 rubles (further, I think the price tag will still grow when the engine is removed and disassembled completely).
What is included in this money - remove / install the engine, disassemble / assemble the engine, crimp the block, replace the burned-out piston, replace the CPG rings (all), revise and clean the head, replace the timing belt.
Here is such a fun trip drew.
Can sell as is? How much to ask?
If there are repairmen, I will gladly accept suggestions for repairs in PM.

There are 2 numbers (to the knowledge base):
1.1608730180 STANDARD REPLACEMENT GASOLINE ENGINES - price from 174,000 rubles
2.15RJ ENGINE PETROL NEW - price from 236,000 rubles
3. BU from 85 000 rub
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The timing chain drive serves a little longer than the belt drive, but still it, being a consumable, needs to be replaced. On the Peugeot 3008, this operation can be carried out with your own hands, without asking for the help of specialists. This manual will tell you in detail how this can be done.

The timing chain drive has the same purpose as the belt drive; it must synchronize the actions of the crankshaft and camshaft. Thanks to the chain, pistons and valves do not meet each other while driving. If we assume that the chain breaks, then their meeting will be inevitable. They will hit each other, which will definitely lead to their deformation. But the chain has one significant advantage - it cannot break. The chain only deforms, which means that there is no need to make major engine repairs due to its breakage.

But the chain is not eternal, and over time it stretches, which is due to wear of the hinges. Because of this, the distance between the links becomes larger. But in what cases the chain should be subject to immediate replacement:

• it is no longer possible to adjust its tension;
• some of the labels have ceased to match;
• cracks, chips or other mechanical damage appeared.

When the drive is extended, the motor will no longer run smoothly. The stretching of the links is uneven, so the chain will seem to "dance", in different places stretching tighter or weaker.

And here is how the chain drive slack will be expressed:

• a loud noise will be heard when the engine is running;
• the car will not start well;
• fuel consumption will increase slightly.

In addition, the chain can simply fly off the sprockets, and this is already the same as a break. In this case, the consequences will be the same - the impact of the valves on the pistons and their deformation. Therefore, be sure to check the chain tension from time to time. And if it is not possible to pull it normally, then it must be changed. And the sooner you can do it, the better. The chain tension can be checked using a special template. It is installed in place of the tensioner and the gap is measured. You can see this template in the photo below:

For convenience, such repairs are best performed on an overpass. If this is not possible, we will use a jack. And here's what we need in this case:

• a set of cranks;
• a device for fixing the flywheel and camshafts;
• heads;
• keys;
• torex;
• screwdrivers with different tips;
• new drive;
• new tensioner;
• pacifier (3 pcs);
• new bolts for attaching the camshafts;
• new gears for shafts;
• gasket in place to install the casing.

Be sure to only use quality materials. If you buy a chain in the market, it may well be stretched. You can check it like this: hold the product flat and look at its sagging. It should not exceed 10 mm. To check the quality of the metal, you can lightly stroke it with a file.

1. So, we put the car on the overpass, if possible, open the hood and de-energize the car by disconnecting the left battery terminal.

2. Now you can remove the right front wheel, as well as the wheel arch liner and engine protection.
3. Dismantle the air filter and branch pipe.
4. Remove the cover from the engine.
5. Now you need to disconnect all wires and camshaft sensors from the engine.
6. De-energize the ignition coils and remove them.
7. We remove the ventilation hose, all the existing branch pipes - too. Make sure that all openings are closed with plugs, otherwise dirt will get into them.
8. Remove the cover from the cylinder head.

9. Lift the engine and remove the dipstick, which measures the oil level in the system.
10. Remove the motor support.
11. Now remove the accessory drive strap.
12. Dismantle the pulley of additional units.To do this, you will have to unscrew a few bolts.
13. Scroll the crankshaft to the flywheel locking position. Scroll follows the crankshaft retaining bolt.
14. Now fix the flywheel and all shafts. This is done using a special device.
15. Dismounts the chain tensioner.
16. Now you need to dismantle all the pulleys.
17. Turn off the crankshaft hub.
18. Now we come to the moment of direct removal of the chain itself. We remove it.
19. Remove the tensioners and their guides.
20. Remove the crankshaft sprocket with the seal ring.
21. Now we have completely disassembled the mechanism. Before installing new components, you need to properly clean the seats from dirt.
22. We assemble the guides, chain, drive sprocket and install all this on the cylinder head.

23. We expose labels in all necessary places.
24. Install the drive gear pulley on the crankshaft.
25. Mount the hub.
26. We put in place all the other pulleys.
27. Install the tensioner.
28. Install the seal ring.
29. Now you can put the last pulley - attachments.
30. Get rid of the retainers on the shafts.
31. We put the belts of the additional units and stretch them. They should be tightened correctly - without constriction and sagging.
32. Put the oil dipstick in its place.
33. We mount the ignition coil and connect it.
34. We connect the sensors.
35. We put a decorative cover.
36. We install pipes, filters and motor protection.
37. Install the removed wheel.
38. Last but not least, we connect the disconnected terminal from the storage battery.

That's all. Now we check the operation of the motor. If extraneous noises are not audible, then everything is in order. Otherwise, you will have to look under the hood and, if necessary, repeat the chain installation procedure.

The French have overslept the topic of all-wheel drive forever. For them, a car with a 4 × 4 wheel arrangement was incomprehensible before and has remained so to this day.

The intellect of fragile Europe, and France in particular, cannot comprehend the meaning of all-wheel drive. They do not understand and will hardly ever understand why it is necessary to drive a car rowing with all four on asphalt or flat dirt road. After all, this is an overpayment first when buying a car, then when servicing, operating and repairing it. Not rational! Expensive!

But when the traditional idea of ​​an all-wheel drive car changed and it became clear that not only a frame SUV or an executive sedan, but also a practical, slightly raised above the road (i.e. with increased ground clearance) car with light controllability, all those who have in their arsenal there was no all-wheel drive realized their mistake. Especially after a social order appeared for such machines, which accordingly increased demand and attention.

The French brand Peugeot, along with the PSA-related Citroen, did not have all-wheel drive either. But the wave of increased interest in light SUV (Sport Utility Vehicle) crossovers made the French think ... The choice fell on Mitsubishi - they know a lot about real off-road, cross-country ability and competent all-wheel drive transmission. However, it was impossible to destroy Europe with severe off-road vehicles of the Pajero, Pajero Sport, L200 format. And PSA understood this. As a result, the French took the mediocre Outlander XL as a basis, and then the frankly unsuccessful ASX, making them their Peugeot 4007 and Citroen C-Crosser, as well as the Peugeot 4008 and Citroen C4 Aircross, respectively.

Stop! But a tangible part of Europe wants a crossover and does not always dream of all-wheel drive. They just want a versatile car with a slightly taller roof and a little more ground clearance. Four-wheel drive is not at all a mandatory attribute in the list of their desires. The French are quite capable of making such a car on their own, especially since in their hearts they know that the SUVs of their partners are not masterpieces. It was then that the recipe matured.Take a mid-size passenger car from the existing model range, and make a mono-drive SUV on its basis.

The Peugeot 3008 crossover was created on the platform of the 308 hatchback - it has the same power structure of the body, the same motors and, apart from the hybrid version, only front-wheel drive, like the hatchback. It is noteworthy that only Peugeot decided on such a car within the concern. Citroen did nothing of the kind, leaving only analogs of Japanese cars in the crossover camp. Although with the advent of the Citroen DS4, marketers of the brand plucked up the nerve and announced that this is also a crossover.
The 3008 is a real Frenchman in almost everything. In "Peugeot" they made it exclusively on their own. The only appearance of the car was not French, even though the French also painted it. But the French are different, still from the old design team, who came up with a hypertrophied mouth, which eventually passed on to the bumpers of all Peugeot models. Now sabotage against "Peugeot" was suppressed and a team of designers from the brotherly "Citroen" was sent to save the company, who previously, with their skill, returned the brand to its former style and aesthetics. Therefore, there is a hope that the forthcoming restyled Peugeot 3008 should become more harmonious and balanced.

The interior of the 3008 is made with French grace and German quality. The instrument panel is a sight for sore eyes! The visor flowing into the center console is an appropriate addition! Angled ventilation deflectors in the center - a continuation of the style! The front passenger grab bar on the center console is a clever embodiment of design and practicality all rolled into one! All this beauty is made of quality materials and, moreover, is perfectly assembled. And how it sits in the cabin of the Peugeot 3008! Excellent seats with a solid set of adjustments and exemplary ergonomics clearly increase the degree of pleasure from car ownership. All controls are close at hand. The manual transmission lever is especially conveniently installed.

And if you do not stand still and drive ... Fine-tuning the chassis and driving characteristics has always been a strong point of the Peugeot brand. French engineers know how to make sure that the car does not shake on bumps and pleases with handling on smooth asphalt! Cars with a turbocharged engine (1.6L 150HP) are equipped with Dynamic Rolling Control by default. Thanks to her, on a straight line, the shock absorbers work in a comfortable mode, and in turns, with the help of a clever system of valves and hydraulic cylinders, they become stiffer. Steering is similarly fine-tuned! The 3008th standard follows the driver! The car is always obedient and predictable.

For such a taut chassis, the equally peppy turbo is ideal. This is the same engine made by the efforts of Peugeot-Citroen, BMW. The turbine is paired with a 1600 cc engine. 150 forces of this unit are always enough with a margin. Alas, such favorable technical characteristics affected the resource of the motor. The cars of the first years frightened by the insignificance of the run, passed before the forced repair. More recent cars on their background did not look killable, but in fact they also did not shine with reliability, like a similar aspirated 1.6 liter (120 hp). Moreover, with each new model of the concern, this engine becomes deeper and deeper a part of PSA's history. All the latest models of the concern without fail have this motor - excellent in performance and clearly not problem-free in real life and operation.

Surprisingly, the 3008, despite its front-wheel drive essence, is actually a crossover and not just a passenger car! Even the mono-drive chassis of the 3008, subject to an intelligent driver and the presence of the Grip Control system, which independently controls the electronics, depending on the selected mode ("standard", "snow", "mud", "sand"), the car can climb along a slippery country road with variable relief.

The starting price for the Peugeot 3008 in Russia is 799,000 rubles. It is a naturally aspirated car with 120 hp 1.6 petrol and a five-speed manual transmission as standard Access. Interestingly, even for the basic version, a 1.6 diesel engine (112 hp) is also available. The cheapest 3008 with such an engine costs 939,000 rubles.The next in the hierarchy version of Active is estimated at a minimum of 834,000 rubles. A car in the same configuration, but with a 1.6 turbo (150 hp) costs 934,000 rubles.

It is curious that the surcharge for a copy with an Aisin assault rifle is zero. It also sells for the same $ 934,000 as the mechanic car. The Allure, top-of-the-line for all Peugeot cars, raises the price of the crossover to at least 1,064,000 rubles. These are the prices for cars in fixed configurations, without metallic paint and all kinds of options.

The crossover camp is extremely large! And 3008 has a lot of rivals. But Peugeot can only be fully compared with front-wheel drive versions of competitors. Although there are also a lot of them.

1. Skoda Yeti 1.2 TSI (2WD). Skoda Yeti is the first crossover of the Czech brand. Volkswagen Tiguan was taken as a basis for "Yeti". In Russia, the Yeti is available in both mono and all-wheel drive versions. For the crossover, several 1.2 petrol engines (105 hp) have been proposed; 1.4 (122 hp) and 1.8 (152 hp - only with four-wheel drive).

2. VW Tiguan. The compact crossover Volkswagen Tiguan of the first generation debuted at the end of 2007. And in 2011, the production model underwent restyling, during which the car changed its face. Engines for Tiguan are typical for Volkswagen: petrol - 1.4TSI (122 HP or 150 HP) and 2.0TSI (170 HP or 200 HP), as well as diesel 2.0 l. (140 hp). With the weakest engine "Tiguan" is front-wheel drive.

This Peugeot 3008 had to be unloaded from the tow truck directly to the lift due to a broken wheel

It turned out that the ball joint had been torn out of the steering knuckle (shown by red arrows). This happened because when replacing the ball in a non-core service, it was screwed in "by hand" and not "locked". The drive was also thrown out of the box. On the way, the car's wheel broke. Miraculously, the accident did not happen.

For engines - all sores inherent in EP6. We have written a lot about this, you can read here and here. If you have an increased oil consumption - about this here. As a rule, increased oil consumption is associated with a short service life of the valve stem seals. If your car starts to “eat up” oil, it is better to change the valve stem seals until the oil burns out in the cylinders spoiled the catalyst and covered the exhaust valves. This can be done without removing the cylinder head. You can watch a short video about this yourself, which we have made especially for you.