The car stalled on the move, about 1 km after refueling. The car was refueled when the light was on at the fuel level, half the tank was filled, the refueling was constant during the last year.
At first, the engine began to triple and stalled, barely started and stalled again.
They brought it in. After checking everything and everything - everything is fine, there are no errors, but it does not start. Works on air. They substituted a similar nozzle on the rail (Renault Traffic) - there is injection, removed the relatives - substituted - there is no injection. I can't check them myself. I will send it for verification.
They do not pour into the return line, the pressure in the rail is normal.
The fuel is normal in color and smell, burns as expected. The client himself changed the filter as soon as it stalled.
FIAT DUCATO with 2.5- / 2.8 liter diesel engine. Clean and adjust the valve nozzles. This ensures approximately equal service life of all 4 wheels.
Repair of Fiat Ducato diesel injectors (fiat Ducato cars). Repair terms. If you entrusted the technical center with the restoration of injectors, then it is logical to ask the manager about the timing of the work.
Replacing fuel injectors on Fiat Ducato. Replacing the fuel injectors of a Fiat Ducato car should be carried out only in services that specialize in servicing minibuses.
If the runout is within the nominal value, then balance the wheel. Replace the plastic fuel filter cap. Leakage currents appear in this case in the form of thin irregularly shaped stripes on the surface of the cover. To raise the vehicle, operate the lift until the wheel of the vehicle is suspended and touches the floor.Coolant - Checking the level The coolant level should be checked regularly, about every 4 weeks and at least before every long ride.
I think that in order for the answers to be clear, it is necessary to divide this question into: How to determine that the injector is covered? What is failing in the injector? What needs to be done or not done to extend the life of the injectors to prevent damage? How time-consuming is the operation of replacing the injector and can you do it yourself? The intake manifold on the 1.6 engine was removed 3 times to replace the injectors by myself and Beria.
Determine the faulty injector with a tester. There is a 5-pin chip behind the air duct in front of the motor, to the right of the filler neck. The central one is common, and the rest are on the nozzles separately. Measure resistance and identify non-working. The winding burns out in the injector, like in an electric motor. The winding is an electromagnet that moves the nozzle needle and opens the fuel supply.
In my first replaced nozzle, the resistance was 4 Ohms, instead of Regarding the resource - the shortage of the manufacturer's plant, it is not recommended to water them with water, the engine wash, the first one changed after the engine wash, either a reason, or a coincidence .. We need a simple tool, a pit. If you have any questions, write, I will answer. And a photo for a start. Snowstorm, 1 track on the road and snow 10cm of porridge.
Somewhere near Smolensk, it's still a damned city, even there everything happens, the nozzle lamp lit up, I even looked around to see where the scribe crept from, drove into a gas station under the lamp, the engine troit, opened the hood, and there was a snow slab. I swept away the snow with a brush, closed the hood, waited 15 minutes. I'm looking for some in the morning, and the Arctic fox is right there, my nozzle is covered. The water was even in the filter in the form of ice and snow.
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And you are the number of the nozzle (which stood to me and told). Did she wear it with a copper ring?
Your number is Bosch 0445120002, it is sealed with a “cone”, there is no ring:
I bought a hexagon, unscrewed with grief in half the holder that holds the nozzle, took it off, but I can't get the nozzle myself
I called a friend at the car service, said that it happens that people get them for a week. He said that they are poured / soaked with a mixture of kerosene and vinegar (50/50).
Maybe there are some other ways to remove the nozzle?
The engine stopped working, diagnostics showed a drop in pressure in the fuel rail, a check for draining from the injectors revealed that two injectors are flowing into the return line. I pulled out the nozzle with great difficulty
You take off the windshield wipers' leashes and plastic clips in the corners, lift the plastic jabot and fit silicone or sealant into the groove just below the windshield so that water does not drain into the engine compartment between the glass and the jabot. And our forces are smeared with heat-dissipating paste KPT-8, or copper high-temperature paste.
And what kind of prophylaxis is there, so that these forces do not stick so well?
At Traffic, you need to glue the frill to the windshield so that water does not get into the wells of the nozzles.
Thanks! And there is no reference to such work, I read there that they smear something with a sealant, but I did not hear anything about the frill, and even when they put forces, they need to be processed with something? well, maybe they lubricate it with something))
How are you doing in sealing the engine compartment?
Thanks Igor! But until then, I don’t go to the vivar in winter, while I’m in the garage, yesterday I took a new battery, I started it up, the car didn’t start all winter, the twist started up from the floor, but the wheels were lowered, two are generally on the bones, now I’ll go to work I'll take a more powerful compressor and go download it))
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Required for engine operation Fiat Ducato diesel injectors can be replaced or restored at specialized level car services.
The injection elements are responsible for the uniformity of the fuel mass atomization. Therefore, it is important to monitor their serviceability. They can fail due to poor fuel and for a number of other reasons. Problems in such cases need to be resolved promptly.
Complex repair of diesel injectors Fiat Ducato - this is the work of a modern technical center, where craftsmen can use bench equipment to restore the operation of injectors. The event includes all levels of diesel injector diagnostics and measures established by recommendations and schemes.
On cars, these parts do not fail overnight. For some time, the car owner may notice
increasing the agility of the car (if the nozzle overflows, this affects the dynamics first positively, then in the other direction)
fuel consumption, increased for unknown reasons
drop in engine power
difficult starting of the motor
black exhaust smoke or blue
The reasons in such cases can be different, including those associated with a malfunction of diesel injectors.
A certain type of diesel injectors is installed on the fiat Ducato. This point, considering the need for restoration, must be taken into account. The manufacturer must also be taken into account. With a qualified approach, it is possible to restore the work of parts without further unpleasant complaints.
Almost every motorist who has encountered a malfunction at some point is seriously considering repairing diesel injectors with his own hands. There is no need to take risks in this way, since they only need to be repaired by a master.
Any malfunction can be eliminated in Moscow in car services, where it is also possible to repair injectors on any Fiat Ducato diesel engine.
If the problem of the restoration of fuel cells has become urgent for you, we will help you to find a solution in a rational way.
Many structures today offer repair of diesel injectors of any complexity on favorable terms. However, it can be difficult to understand where they will actually get quality repairs.
Looking for specialists in technical centers, the car owner focuses on the main issues
is there a guarantee and for how long
can the technical center guarantee that the fuel parts will be refurbished
what price will the complex of services cost him
whether the repair will take place according to the specifics of the car - it is important here to determine where fiat Ducato cars are made
By offering structures (car services) from the list for the provision of services, we are sure that individual work will go with each client. The solution of problems with the functionality of fuel injectors or a diesel engine in general here occurs according to the established scheme.
In our network, there is a call center - a service where they can advise how best to proceed and recommend who to repair diesel injectors. For a specific search, the operator will need to provide information on the Fiat Ducato car. Based on the technical nuances and your location, he will advise a specialized car service, in which there is a master of the required specialization.
It is advisable to heed the advice of a consultant. Even if the car service is not close to you, it is better to come to a specialist. This way you can save money on fixing poor-quality repairs.
Any car owner understands that a motor, especially a diesel one, requires a particularly careful and attentive attitude. And if the diesel engine has gone bad, a specialized approach is needed. This is exactly what the Diesel-K car service offers, in which diesel operators work with the skills to repair all types of diesel engines.
We can say for sure that the owner of any foreign car on which such an engine is installed can carry out repair measures.In addition, the car owner can save significant money because we work at affordable prices.
Autotechcenter "Leber-auto" provides a full range of services for the repair of engines of foreign diesel cars. We can confidently say that we will solve the problems with the unit in a timely manner.
When there are questions about the repair of an internal combustion engine, you need to solve them in professional car services, especially when it comes to diesel. And the autotech center "Rappo-motor" can be confidently attributed to the enterprises of a good level.
Here you will find a master who can not only carry out the necessary work, but also give certain recommendations regarding the operation of the motor.
Car service specialists "KRD-service" are those masters who can really professionally repair a diesel type engine. The experience that the diesel operators of the car service have gained over a long time allows them to carry out work at a good level.
You will find a good master and favorable prices with us!
If the diesel is broken, that's a real problem. But to solve it correctly will not be difficult for the specialists from the technical center "Starrymont".
Our car service is the place where you can get quality and affordable services. During the repair measures, the craftsmen will be able to understand what the problem is and advise the motorist how to monitor the engine in the future.
Contact us - and you will understand that we need to advise your friends as a professional technical center!
The Phill-MOTO Technical Center can be your favorite diesel service if you refer here. On our base, you can repair a faulty diesel engine in an adequate time. As for the price level, our work has an average cost.
The technical center "Gelper-auto" is considered one of the few service stations that can be trusted to repair a diesel engine. In this auto technical center, the craftsmen have not only good qualifications, but also experience in the restoration of various parts of the unit.
If your diesel engine is junk - contact us, because we will definitely be able to return the internal combustion engine to normal performance.
Repair for a diesel type motor can become relevant at any time. And if it has come for you, come to the Mitino-Remdiesel auto technical center, where the necessary events will have a comfortable time frame and an inexpensive cost.
"Zannar" is a technical center, tested for reliability and recommended by many car owners, where work on the restoration of diesel units is carried out on the most favorable terms.
Comprehensively solving problems within the framework of the repair, experienced employees will be able to eliminate any problems so that your diesel engine works as it should.
We recommend contacting the technical center "Staini-STO", where they will not only repair and restore the diesel with high quality, but also do it at an average price for Moscow.
If you entrusted the technical center with the restoration of injectors, then it is logical to ask the manager about the timing of the work. Our network strives to provide prompt service. The craftsmen adequately assess the scope of work, therefore they fit into the time agreed with the customer.
At the moment, almost the most important problem is the cost of repairs, regardless of the breakdown. Indeed, it is inexpensive to repair on a diesel engine, but it is not easy today to professionally repair injectors. However, you can find where they will offer quite adequate prices for services.
When the task is to calculate how much it will cost to restore parts, you need to understand
how much does a certain job cost
how serious and repairable are the breakdowns
how many elements will go for repair
These are the fundamental points at which the price can be named.
In car services, promotions for different types of work are periodically held. It is quite possible that upon a call you will be able to repair fuel injectors on a diesel internal combustion engine at a minimal cost.
The extreme exit becomes replacement of nozzles on diesel Fiat Ducato ... As a rule, in order to understand exactly whether it is necessary to change the parts in question, specialists need to conduct a full assessment of their condition.
Contacting specialists for the replacement of these injection parts is the optimal solution for the cost and effectiveness of the event.
To properly change non-repairable fuel cells on a fiat Ducato diesel engine, special tools are needed. We especially note that standard keys are not enough here, since there is a possibility of breaking the edges.
Complete replacement of injectors with their removal and installation will cost the motorist an acceptable amount in our network of auto repair shops.
It is possible to correctly remove these parts from the diesel engine of a foreign car, having done it carefully and correctly, in our technical centers. I must say that dismantling can be performed both during replacement and during other activities.
If you do not want to pay for the dismantling service, you can try to remove the injectors from the diesel engine yourself. Of course, if you have experience in this and some skills.
The installation of injectors on any diesel engine, be it from a fiat Ducato or from another car, must be done correctly. From the person who will conduct this event, it is required
full understanding of technology and following instructions
experience in this matter
availability of professional tools
That is, if there is a need to install these components on the internal combustion engine, this must be done at the technical center.
The almost standard measure is repair of nozzles of Fiat Ducato diesel engines at the stand ... The recovery process in this case takes place on the basis of observing the operation of the faulty element in a simulated mode.
In order to repair fuel supply parts at the stand, you can bring already removed elements to the car service and, or drive a car. The technicians will do the dismantling themselves and correctly install the injectors after the repair on the fiat Ducato.
With the help of a bench installation, it becomes possible to eliminate a certain set of defects. Equipment for this must be in good order and serviced on time, which is done regularly in our car services.
You can find out about the technical centers where this service is provided from the call-center employee.
Checking fiat Ducato diesel injectors Is a sequential measure that allows you to identify a malfunction in a detail. Often a test bench is required for complete diagnostics. The check required in the event of malfunctions for a high-quality result requires diagnostics at the stand.
Of course, the desire to check the malfunctions of the injectors yourself is very great. Moreover, many motorists are ready to tell how to do this on the forums. In this case, neglect of a qualified service even threatens the repair of a diesel engine.
If you do not want to face difficult and, accordingly, costly repairs in the near future, then contact our technical centers. Here you can diagnose the injectors and diagnose their malfunction in a timely manner.
If you need a real hint where to check these injection system components on Fiat Ducato vehicles, contact the project helpdesk.
Part of the complex work is the computer diagnostics of diesel injectors. During the event, a scanner is needed through which the wizard can diagnose problems.
Regardless of what type of diagnostics is required in order to fully identify the problem - a computer assessment or a bench test - in our structures it will be performed inexpensively and quickly.
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The injectors that were installed have a seven-digit code as in the photo. Launch and Bosch KTS allows you to enter only the same seven-digit code.
Attention question: how to register the original injector if it has an eight-digit code?
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Most likely, the plant ran out of variants of seven-digit codes and switched to eight-digit ones. If you change the program in the ECU, it can and will. Moreover, as far as I understand, there are nine cells in general for each code (BOSH KTS - enters 9 characters into the line, and no less and no more, and Launch in the above photo also displays nine characters in total). It gives only seven to write, but there are exactly nine cells in memory. The only problem here is the prohibition to register more than seven.
Good afternoon. such a problem, I have a Fiat Ducato 2.3 turbo diesel. began to stall on the go, it was bad to start, they said 2-3 nozzles were drained to the return line during diagnostics. repair of injectors is needed.! the question is where in the city REPAIR injectors?
Don't be mean, buy new ones. I have not heard that they are renovating.
MAZ was repaired somewhere at a fur farm. tomorrow I can take contacts.
along the old Tsimlyansk highway - to the right, just after the PKF NORD base.
along the old Tsimlyansk highway - to the right, just after the PKF NORD base.
Thank you.) I also found where they remanufactured. DonbyAvto service. Pravda the car has been with them for 2 weeks.
Thank you.) I also found where they remanufactured. DonbyAvto service. Pravda the car has been with them for 2 weeks.
In a professional auto technical center "AutoMD" in Moscow, experienced specialists qualitatively perform replacement of Fiat Ducato injectors at an affordable favorable price.
Injectors are important elements of a Fiat Ducato car engine that regulate fuel injection. Gradually, the nozzles become clogged and fail. This leads to increased fuel oil consumption and incorrect atomization. As a result, damaged or clogged injectors lead to engine health problems and costly engine repairs.
To prevent engine damage, it is important to periodically replace the Fiat Ducato injectors. Professional diagnostics and replacement of Fiat Ducato 2,3 injectors and other Fiat models are performed by specialists of the professional service "AutoMD". We use high-quality spare parts and modern equipment in our work. Contact our technical center, we are happy to help!
We work to ensure that you receive professional repairs and high-quality service maintenance of commercial and passenger cars at a favorable price in Moscow. For your convenience, we have prepared a list of prices for replacing Fiat Ducato injectors at the AutoMD auto technical center ↓
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The injector is the most important element of the fuel system of any vehicle. And although each model has its own design features, the principle of operation and device they are in many respects similar, therefore repair of nozzles Fiat Ducato does not differ from the repair of other types of injectors.
However, it should only be carried out in a specialized car repair shop.However, in the conditions of an ordinary garage, such repairs will be very difficult to perform, because special equipment and a test stand will be required. It is best to immediately contact a Fiat brand center.
Before starting repairs, it is very important to correctly identify the malfunction, for which it will be necessary to diagnose the operation of the fuel system. The main causes of damage to Fiat Ducato injectors, leading to malfunctions, are corrosion, excessive wear, clogging. Corrosion can be caused by fuels containing a large amount of sulfur, or by the use of unseparated water.
Computer diagnostics of the Fiat Ducato car and its fuel system is necessary to obtain comprehensive information about the performance of the injectors and all system elements, this is the only way to draw up a further repair plan. Obviously, such diagnostics is possible only in a car service center equipped with special computer equipment.
In technical terms, the repair consists in adjusting the performance and restoring the injectors to ensure operability in all engine operating modes. Thus, you can ensure the most accurate supply of the fuel mixture by pressure, optimize its consumption.
The most common reasons for a decrease in the performance of injectors are:
Damage or wear of the elements of the fuel pump - high pressure fuel pump.
Increasing gaps or decreasing tension between parts.
The use of low-quality fuel.
The presence of contaminants in the fuel - dust particles, mechanical impurities, water.
It is possible to minimize the possible decrease in the performance of Fiat Ducato injectors and avoid frequent repairs only with the help of regular inspection and maintenance of the entire fuel system, timely replacement of filters, and use of high-quality fuel. Neglect of these simple rules very often leads to breakdowns of other units and assemblies, and this happens at the most inopportune time.
Repair of injectors takes place in several stages:
removal and disassembly;
checking the condition of components, replacing worn out and damaged ones;
assembly and installation;
testing on a test bench.
Upon detection of irreparable damage, Fiat Ducato injectors and injection pumps are replaced with new ones.
If you go to a good auto repair shop, then there repair of nozzles Fiat Ducato comes down to replacing faulty elements with new ones. The advantage is that you can be sure of the quality of the installed parts, because they are all original. In addition, a guarantee is provided.
The injectors in this system are controlled by an electronic control unit using a piezoelectric element or a magnetic solenoid. Thus, they are divided into electromagnetic and piezoelectric. Modern injector mechanisms use six to nine fuel injection phases. Almost all diesel vehicles today are equipped with this system.
The advantages of Common Rail over classic diesels are that the function of creating high fuel pressure and its injection into the cylinder are separate. This made it possible to smoothly regulate the pressure, volume and moment of injection, which led to an increase in engine power, a decrease in the amount of exhaust gases, a compact system, a decrease in noise and an economical fuel consumption (up to 20%).
The most common causes of Common Rail diesel injection malfunctions can be the wear of the moving parts of the diesel injection elements (high pressure fuel pumps, fuel injectors, fuel pumps) due to long-term operation or their premature wear when refueling and running the engine on low-quality fuel.
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Oleg33370 : | 19 July 2010, 16:25:15
Please tell me: 1. how can you determine the performance of common rail nozzles yourself, 2. can you disassemble and clean yourself, what are the nuances of assembly, disassembly, cleaning and installation of such nozzles.And another question, at high speeds, by 3000, the gas starts to dump, a slight growl appears, a malfunction lights up and the car stalls, makes diagnostics show the pressure sensor in the rail, changed it the same situation, prompted to rinse the pressure reducing valve on the pump, took it off with a solvent for some time for a month and a half works fine, then again the old way, can this valve somehow be cleaned or is it still necessary to change it?
lexx2255 : | 27 July 2010, 11:51:20
Dear Oleg33370, I do not advise you to disassemble, rinse and even more to clean the CR nozzles yourself, if you do not want to buy a new set of nozzles after cleaning. The processing purity of this equipment is measured in three numbers after the decimal point. It is better to entrust the matter to specialists.
Vania : | July 27, 2010, 17:11:59
Dimakerch : | July 27, 2010, 19:46:03
And another filter like SKT, Filtron and similar shit also kill the regulator
lexx2255 : | July 27, 2010, 23:11:50
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Injectors are mechanical sprinklers of fuel in a car engine. Correct operation of the fuel pump and injectors is an integral part of the proper operation of the fuel supply system completely; in case of breakdowns, Fiat Ducato injectors need to be replaced or repaired. Never listen to those who convince you that repairing or replacing Fiat Ducato injectors is an easy job. Replacement and repair of Fiat Ducato injectors requires not only special technical equipment, but also special skills and experience, which only qualified mechanics possess.
In our network of technical centers, Fiat Ducato injectors in St. Petersburg are being replaced with the help of not only the latest equipment, but also the work of the best auto repairmen in St. Petersburg. Therefore, if you need to repair Fiat Ducato injectors in St. Petersburg, go to our service.
Now, at our service stations, not only qualified car repairs are carried out using the latest technical equipment and the labor of experienced auto repairmen, but in addition we can now buy Fiat Ducato diesel injectors in St. Petersburg. Competent sellers will recommend which Fiat Ducato auto parts in St. Petersburg are suitable for repairing your car. In the absence of the necessary Fiat Ducato spare part in the car shop, we will make an order for it.
Spare parts list: : mechanical diesel nozzle, electric diesel nozzle.
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