In detail: do-it-yourself gas infrared heater repair from a real master for the site my.housecope.com.
Comrades members of the forum, the roof is going from a misunderstanding of what is happening, help. I got just such a crap for heating the boat's cockpit: "Gas infrared heater GII-1 (2.3 kW)"
Cylinder 5 l, import reducer. I set it on fire, the gas starts to “wandering” burn from above and there is no end to it. A couple of times from the time of buying the tile, after thirty or forty minutes of such "warming up", it was heated up and started to work as expected. By the way, if you extinguish and immediately set fire again, then again combustion on the surface of the honeycomb does not come out. But today, in general, nothing. I tried to heat it with a manual burner, I tried to turn it over, shake it, cover the air, add gas (from a can). To no use. It burns with open fire and that's it. The tile is new. Yes, simple to the limit, but what is expensive and cheap is the same and the working body is the same. What's the catch? Can gas quality be the cause? (stinks great)
Eating from a balloon through a frog or a reducer? Maybe the gas pressure is just not enough.
Through a reducer. I didn’t set any experiments, I took a can of the saddle, put the hose from it into the inlet of the tile, together with the regular gas supply. The flame (blue, almost invisible in the light) above the honeycomb has risen up to 30 centimeters - the fire is still the same, but the tile still “won't start”. I tried to heat it and the honeycomb with an external burner, until it was red, one fig. In the internet, nothing worthwhile on the topic can be googled, they just write “after warming up” combustion begins above the cells of a millimeter height, like no one had such a breakthrough. And it stinks, I think, because complete combustion does not happen.
Video (click to play).
daddy also burns superbly set fire to and blew a little reducer soviet 5l cylinder + faucet from some kind of camping stove + - we can gas shitty
Maybe not a lot of air, but a little? So it burns higher, where the air is already mixing with the outgoing gas.
Why shouldn't he get there? The hole is the hole. The same as the picture. I also thought I had carried out all possible experiments, incl. and tried to blow there through a tube, such as turbocharging))
IMHO gas burns where it has already mixed with oxygen. It won't burn itself, right? It means there is not enough oxygen. Can you disassemble and see what is wrong there? 😉
There was a similar x-nya, only the heater is different. He cured by reducing the amount of air, i.e. made a curtain from tin. I'll take a picture and show you.
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> Through the gearbox. I didn’t set any experiments, I took a day > spray can, put the hose from it into the inlet of the tile > together with standard gas supply. Flame (blue, almost > invisible) above the honeycomb has risen centimeters up to 30 - fire still > that one, but the tile still “won't start”.
If, when adding gas from the second cylinder, the flame rose and did not fall, then you have a lot of gas, try to reduce the pressure and tell me which jet you have on the stove
I didn’t set any experiments -
did not quite understand this balloon was on fire? or other? once tried to launch a tile from a new balloon. not ale: ((( started by elimination. another reducer, tiles. balloon. it turned out that the balloon was not working well. the flame walks, but does not split the burner. scratching his turnips blew a little gas without a reducer and all the ash. CONCLUSION: I think there was air in the new balloon, when I blew it - everything worked.
It is quite possible that it is the quality of the gas and the reason. But also try to gently push the grate inside with something like a ladle. A little bit.
Sorry, I’ll add.It began to work excellently for me precisely when the grate fell slightly. And before that there was a similar crap, but not to the same extent.
There is a suspicion that you give a lot to gas. Try to ignite from the very minimum.
Do such heaters give a lot of waste? In a garage, for example, a closed one, after how much will it become unbearable?
We spent under the tent in Prog, ok, but there are drafts. In a closed room (in a kunga) after 15 minutes they turned off, the smell was. But I don’t remember how it burned. For myself, I decided that I did not need him.
> Such heaters give a lot of waste? In a garage for example closed > after how much will it become unbearable?
A lot, especially if you add more gas. In closed rooms, when there are people, it is better not to use it. I've been smoking fish on it near the garage for many years now. It's very convenient.
It’s a shame, a shame to admit our own stupidity. The fact is that on a cold tile, when it is ignited from above, the fire inevitably “falls through” to the place where the hose is connected, combustion takes place where air is taken, and in the inside of the tile itself. I was sure that “this is how it should be” and that after warming up, the fire should rise to the honeycomb. This is exactly what happened a couple of times. Before that, I had never used such devices, so I had no idea how it was properly set on fire. When I finally realized that I was doing something wrong, after setting it on I began to wait until it warms up a little, then blow out the fire and immediately set it on fire where it should be - on top of the honeycomb. And after that everything works great. But from the cold, the fire necessarily goes to the place where the hose is connected.
It seems to me that the “mechanism” of ignition was described in the passport for the device, I read it once in the store.
> I think the "mechanism" of ignition was described in the passport to > the device, I read it once in the store.
Well, who reads the instructions before all the options have been tried and nothing happens? This is unsportsmanlike! ))
Hmm. As the saying goes, RTFM is the best advice! ))) But I didn’t guess, I forgot. )))
Hahaha. In “this faking manual”, by the way, it wasn’t written that after setting fire from above and “dropping” the fire down, you need to blow it out like an idiot and start all over again, trying for the fifth or sixth time, so that the fire itself lingers from above honeycomb
There is no need to blow out anything. A dizzy and inconvenient activity. The fire goes down in windy weather or when there is an excess of gas. You set fire to a piece of paper and put it on the tile. Apply a little gas until it flashes on the surface of the tile. Then you wait (10-20 seconds) when the ceramics “glows” red and you can add more gas, but do not overdo it. Watch for the appearance of flames above the tile. If they appear, then it is better to remove the gas until they disappear. The ceramics should be heated to the maximum until almost white, but as a rule, this is never required, because there is a high gas consumption. A rather pale red color. I have been using it for many years.
In this article we will show you how to repair the NEOCLIMA UK-04 infrared gas burner with your own hands. When we bought this ceramic heater, it worked well and perfectly, heated objects quickly and warmly, but during operation, the ceramics from the heater began to crumble and fall off.
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the honeycomb of the infrared heater breaks
What is the cause of the pops when the ceramic gas heater is ignited?
When the gas burner was ignited, there were pops and small explosions, as I was later told in the store that it was due to the wrong air mixture. I began to think about how to make the correct air mixture for a gas heater, in my case it was necessary to close the through holes in the burners (heaters), since there was air leakage from them and the mixture was enriched. I thought for a long time how to close the holes so that there was no air leakage, put metal plates and so on, it did not help.The solution was found in mastic for fireplaces and stoves, withstands temperatures of 1100 degrees, when the ceramic burner heats up to 900 degrees.
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I took the mastic for repairing the heater from the edge of the can, since it is thick there and easier to work with than with liquid. The repair of the ceramic heating element was done in half an hour with our own hands, the main thing is that the mastic does not fall into the combustion chamber. This is followed by the drying of the mastic and the heater, at a temperature of 0 degrees, drying lasted 3 days.
When resting in nature, people are often faced with the need warm up.
The same problem arises for those whose work is associated with a long stay on the street, especially if this happens during bad weather.
It is not always possible to make a fire, and for heating this heat source does not always give the desired effect. In modern conditions the best way to heat, autonomous and compact, an infrared ceramic gas-fired heater becomes.
Externally, a gas heater looks like compact devicelightweight. There is no need to use force to move it, and the dimensions of the heater allow it to be freely placed in the trunk of a car.
To operate a gas heater, which is a stand-alone type of equipment, you must have liquefied gas supply.
A small heating device is indispensable in places far from civilization. If you have a trip to the country, where power outages are possible, then it is quite possible that it will become the only remedy for space heating.
Gas heater excellent suitable for use:
in remote locations where construction workers, geologists and other professionals work;
in country houses and small summer cottages;
tourists traveling in winter;
on vacation in natural conditions.
An infrared ceramic heater that uses liquefied gas for operation has a simple device scheme. He consists of only a few parts:
metal body combined with a gas cylinder;
ceramic plates equipped with a complex system of crater-type holes;
gas burner.
Since the use of gas can become dangerous for a person if the device is used improperly, or if it malfunctions, any model of this type of heater is equipped with devices that providing security his works. Among them are:
a gas control system that automatically turns off the device system in the event of a sudden loss of flame;
a carbon dioxide content sensor that turns off the device when the standard of its concentration is exceeded;
power regulator.
In addition to safety devices, each model is equipped with piezoelectric element to ignite the burner. For the convenience of moving the unit, the heater is equipped with wheels.
Heating device of this type works as follows:
Gas from the cylinder enters the mixing chamber, where the gas, mixing with air, forms a gas-air mixture.
The resulting mixture, passing through the holes in the ceramic plates, burns, heating them up to 900 °.
When heated, ceramic plates begin to emit infrared heat.
Feature of infrared radiation lies in the fact that it heats not the air, but the objects in the radiation zone.
Objects, when heated, give up the heat they received to the surrounding space. This allows you to receive from the infrared device significantly more warmththan a conventional heater using the same amount of fuel.
Break down maybe even the most reliable device. Therefore, each of the owners of heaters is interested in the opportunity to bring him back to life on his own, without resorting to the services of specialists.
Knowing the design of the unit, it is quite possible to solve the problem that has arisen. It is clear that the designs of various models differ, but the repair always starts the same way. First of all, it is necessary:
find out the cause of the malfunction;
determine if replacement parts are necessary;
make sure that repairs can be done by yourself;
proceed with the necessary repairs.
For infrared gas heaters equipped with a ceramic plate, repair is most often reduced to replacing low quality platesunable to provide the heat level declared by the manufacturers.
Since the appliance is powered by gas, it must be ensured that no fuel leaks... To eliminate it, it may be necessary to tighten the fasteners, and sometimes replace the cylinder.
The malfunction may be lurking and in the power regulator, therefore, you need to make sure that there are no fuel leaks through it, and if necessary, replace this part.
Even a small repair of a gas heater requires experience in this area. For people who do not have such experience, it is better to contact specialized workshop.
Victor, Chelyabinsk:
“I got a pretty solid device for heating rooms with gas - Timberk TGH 4200 SM1... Most often I use it in the garage, but several times I warmed up the rooms in the house.
Any room heats up very quickly, I did not even expect such an effect. The only thing that sometimes annoys is the very high sensitivity of the sensors. Any push from the heater becomes the reason for its shutdown».
Sergey, Kirov:
“I chose an infrared heater for heating the garage NeoClima UK-02, designed for an area of 25 meters. I liked not only the heating rate and compactness of the device, but also the ability to warm up and even cook food on it in field conditions. "
Ilya, Zelenograd:
"I got a heater Ballu BIGH-3 for the utility room. Works great. It raises the temperature even at sub-zero temperatures in an hour and a half. It ignites easily and on the first try. I liked the opportunity to connect to natural gas. "
With complete objectivity, we can call gas heaters with infrared radiation, a device, extremely useful... Therefore, some home craftsmen have already started making such devices, making them from improvised means.
With a small gas cylinder, a stainless steel reflector and a mesh diffuser, they assemble a small heater that can warm its owner on a fishing trip. It should be noted that in the absence of security sensors, such devices should be used in homes. Not recommended.
The principle of operation of a gas ceramic heater for a Timberk 4200 M1 summer cottage
For an overview and characteristics of the gas heater MASTER 450CR, see the video below:
