Sanek555 wrote: well, the information content of the steering wheel, to be honest, leaves much to be desired
the difference is faint, but it is
The mule is equipped with a simple hydraulic booster, without a “dullness” regulator. The load on the steering wheel is independent of neither the revs nor the speed. hydraulic booster, with a regulator of "dullness" Stand on more "cool" cars. Earlier I noticed that at a speed of more than 130 km I stopped feeling the effort on the steering wheel, like on a lift. Now I solved the problem - the speed is not more than 100. and the consumption is surprising 6.4 - 6.7
West wrote: There is a simple hydraulic booster on a mule, without a “dullness” regulator. The load on the steering wheel is independent of neither the revs nor the speed. hydraulic booster, with a regulator of "dullness" Stand on more "cool" cars. Earlier I noticed that at a speed of more than 130 km I stopped feeling the effort on the steering wheel, like on a lift. Now I solved the problem - the speed is no more than 100. and the consumption is surprising 6.4 - 6.7 And I'm already used to it. I drive no more than 120, on average 100-110, the consumption on the highway is less than 6 liters. informative, for this you need to put a pressure reducing valve between the hydraulic booster and the high-pressure pipe, another option is to reduce the cross-section of the through hole that is in the screw with which the high-pressure pipe is attached, but then the steering wheel should theoretically become heavier!
Aleksandr 1908 What you propose will not solve the problem, this can blunt the power steering even in the cold. rev. (in place) The power steering has a check valve, which is responsible for the stability of the pressure in the system at any speed (as in the power supply system). And the pressure regulation should depend on the speed - and the board is engaged in this. comp. (as one of the functions) on a high-end car. This is complex crap, and the calculation is based on the weight of the car, its high-speed traffic, wheels, their base. The turnover is nothing to see here. I think so.
The West wrote: Aleksandr 1908 What you propose will not solve the problem, this can dull the power steering even on the cold. rev. (in place) The power steering has a check valve, which is responsible for the stability of the pressure in the system at any speed (as in the power supply system). And the pressure regulation should depend on the speed - and the board is engaged in this. comp. (as one of the functions) on a high-end car. This is complex crap, and the calculation is based on the weight of the car, its high-speed traffic, wheels, their base. The turnover is nothing to see here. I think so. The steering wheel will become heavier at idle only if the cross-section of the oil supply hole is reduced! There are two types of power steering adjustment; 1) Pressure control according to the speed of the car engine speed, the higher the speed, the lower the pump pressure. 2) The one you are talking about is regulated depending on the speed of the car!
On the Amulet there is a hydraulic booster without a changeable effort, both on the spot and at speed, it turns equally easily, this is not very good in terms of information content and safety, but you quickly get used to it!
Such a question, has someone already faced the replacement of the bearing in the power steering pump? I just heard that it is sealed there and cannot be replaced, only the purchase of a new pump. Is it so? Or can you still replace it?
You can replace it. I’m not willing to take on this, because I’ve changed the ride 2 thousand already. and godfather zabzel bought a new one! I took the old one from him (42t.km.) I changed the bearing, now I sell it for Ria!
Is the bearing itself expensive? I just buzzed strongly.
I took the Russian Vologda bearing for 35 UAH (6 303) There are 10 UAH each.
I also changed it recently, I installed cx 6303, the price is around 20 UAH, the bearings are almost dry and need to be filled with grease.
They say there are gidrachi with a retaining ring, I have two and rolled. it's an ambush.
Yes you can, but there will be a problem with the bearing, it is rolled, I carefully cut it off with a chisel
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operating fluid ATF DEXRON III.
When performing maintenance or changing the power steering fluid, use the specified fluid.
Note: The use of power steering fluid of other classes - can damage oil seals and form leaks, which leads to failure of the steering 2. When making a turn - it is not recommended to hold the steering wheel in the extreme position (left or right) for more than 5 seconds.
Many problems with power steering are solved by replacing the pump.
repair of the power steering pump / replacement of roller bearings of the belt of the generator of the car Chery Amulet Sori for poor quality.
The reasons for the howling and the solution, silence for more than a year. With Aveo, it seems like an analogue to the Amulet. The tensioner is automatic.
disassembly and assembly of the hydraulic booster.
Gur does not work for Cherie Veri, Cherie A13, Cherie Bonus.
Applicability: 1.CHERY KIMO (S12). 2.CHERY INDIS (S18D). 3CHERY QQ6 (S21). PRESSURE SWITCH-STEERING OIL PUMP.
Gur sounds when air enters the system.
Questions and advice by phone 8 (910) 463-59-.
Chery Amulet Forza replacement of a belt and a hydraulic pump, Chery Amulet Forza replacement of a belt and a hydraulic booster pump, Chery Amulet.
We open the lid of the power steering tank. 2.
We dump the hose from the power steering itself (under the air conditioning compressor).
3. Drain it while it is draining (about 5 min.) Then we plug this hose with something, maybe even a rag - it doesn’t matter.
4. Put a rag on the neck of the power steering reservoir so that your face does not get dirty and blow into the reservoir.
You can talk for a long time about tolerance to novice manufacturers, newcomers to the budget car market, but you probably cannot forgive a car with a price of 12 thousand dollars for zero safety in the mildest and undemanding crash test. But the paradox is that this car is bought even on the secondary market, which does not fit into the framework of common sense at all. Nevertheless, such cases have been recorded and we will try to help the owners of this car, if not physically, then at least with advice. The car was named Cheri Amulet, today we will talk about its repair.
It makes sense to repair frankly budget cars at a service station only when the warranty is in effect. In other cases, do-it-yourself Cherry Amulet repair is a natural and, perhaps, the only available way to restore the car's performance. In the early 2000s, the car seemed like a lifesaver for poor people who desperately needed at least some kind of transport. Here the illegitimate twin of Seat Toledo was tucked in at the price of a good compact city car.
But the Amulet bribed in size and price. Then no one knew what they were dealing with. It looked like Toledo, it inspired confidence. Indeed, the new Chinese coped pretty well with the first kilometers on our roads. On the second, his suspension began to crumble. Shock absorbers flowed before the first maintenance, and the engine mounts loosened for the first 20 thousand.
But this is not the worst thing. Iron can be changed, fortunately, almost all spare parts from the Volkswagen Jetta of the late 80s were suitable for it. This applies to basic consumables:
second and third gear synchronizers, which crumbled in the first place;
hinges of equal angular velocities;
almost all gearbox and engine oil seals;
gaskets, seals and other sealing elements, which had to be largely replaced immediately after purchase.
Iron by iron, but in terms of active and passive safety, Cherie Amulet overtook even our seven, which could not even get one point. Chery simply crumbled to dust in a frontal impact with incomplete overlap. Therefore, no one can give any guarantees of the safety of movement on this car.
As for the repair of the Amulet, the situation here is extremely unstable. We tried to systematize the main problems and tried to find methods of solving them, based on the experience of operating the owners.
An unlicensed copy of a twenty-five-year-old Ford 1.6-liter engine is installed on a car that is assembled in a customs-free zone. Its design is somewhat outdated, to say the least, but this is not the biggest problem. The original Ford engine is capable of zeroing the odometer several times without major repair costs. With the Amulet, such things do not pass. Structurally, there are no complaints about the motor. Poor workmanship and low-quality rubber products, problems with electronics and precision components. Repair of the oil pump may be necessary after 60-70 thousand mileage, regardless of the quality of the oil.
Repair of the generator and starter, most likely, will be required after 80 thousand and will be the result of incorrect operation of the engine control system. The signal for diagnostics will be the frequent discharge of the battery, which, by the way, has shown an enviable survivability. Owners recommend replacing all clamps of rubber pipes with threaded ones of the appropriate size immediately after purchase. This applies to both the repair of the cooling system and the repair of the Chery Amulet stove.
The chassis of the car does not stand up to any criticism, if you do not put your hands on it. The fact is that the rigidity of the suspension parts does not correspond to either the speed limit, which is able to hold the car, or the road surface. The stock Amulet can be easily put on two wheels even at a speed of 50 km / h, therefore, when repairing the suspension, it is advisable to replace the front struts altogether, which fit with minor alterations from the same Jetta.
The power steering works tolerably well, all the problems with the car's handling lie in the suspension, so if they are solved, there will be no steering issues. It will only be necessary to monitor the belt tension when driving the air conditioner and power steering, then problems with them can be avoided.
If you do not forget to carry out preventive maintenance, the car can perform simple work, the main thing is not to overload the body and chassis, monitor consumable fluids. In this case, Cherie Amulet will be able to justify the trust as a cheap and unassuming transport. Good luck to everyone on the road!
We are replacing the steering rack in a Chery Amulet car. The old steering rack was leaking a lot, it was time to replace it. Before work, we need to raise the front of the car, put up supports, remove the front wheels. To remove the rail, we need to remove the stretcher, it is located behind it and access to the tubes and everything else is difficult. We begin our repair by unscrewing the lateral stability nuts on both sides. We unscrew the central bolt that holds the hubs in the steering knuckle, after which the lever will go down a little.
To remove this bolt, we will need to unscrew the caliper bracket. After that, our lever with a slight downward movement can be removed from the steering knuckle. We dismantle the steering tips, or rather their nuts. Further in the matter of removing the steering rack, we need to hang the motor by unscrewing it from the pillows, then unscrew the subframe itself and pull it out.
We unscrew the bolt of the left pillow with such a long knob with a 13-point head:
This is how our jacks stand, one under the box:
Raise them a little so that the pillows loosen and the subframe moves away from the engine. After removing the subframe, we get access to the steering rack and we can change it. We have a new steering rack from a Volkswagen Golf car, it is slightly different, but the seats are identical, it should fit well, which ultimately happened.
Video of replacing the steering rack in Chery Amulet (Chery Amulet):
VIDEO As you can see, changing the steering rack in Chery Amulet with your own hands is not so easy, you need diligence and patience, as well as a good viewing hole and a decent set of tools, after watching our video instructions, you decide for yourself whether you are able to do this work on your own or better go to the car service.
Bleeding (air removal) of the hydraulic system of the power steering is necessary after any work related to the depressurization of the system (replacement of the pump or pipelines). A sign of air in the system is the steering wheel wedging when you try to turn it sharply. In addition, the pump makes an increased noise when the steering wheel is turned, and the fluid in the reservoir usually foams.
1. Fill the working fluid into the power steering system (see "Checking the level and adding working fluid to the power steering reservoir") up to the "MAX" mark on the indicator installed on the reservoir cap (or up to the upper mark on the side of the reservoir).
2. Start the engine and turn the steering wheel all the way to one side.
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3. Turn the steering wheel all the way in the opposite direction.
4. Turn the steering wheel to center position and stop the engine.
5. Check the hydraulic fluid level in the power steering reservoir and top up if necessary.
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6. Repeat steps 2–5 until the level of the working fluid in the reservoir stops dropping.
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The power steering pump is mounted on the left side of the engine and is driven by a V-belt from the crankshaft pulley.
You will need: keys "10", "13", "19", hex keys "6", "8", "10", pliers.
1. Remove the power steering pump drive belt (see "Replacing the power steering pump drive belt").
2. Squeeze the bent tendrils of the return hose clamp with pliers, slide the clamp along the hose.
3.. and disconnect the hose from the pump union, drain the hydraulic booster fluid from the hose into a suitable container.
4. Unscrew the bolt-union fastening to the pump of the discharge line.
5. . and disconnect the line.
6. Remove the nipple bolt from the piping tip and remove the two rubber-metal sealing rings installed on both sides of the tip.
Replace the O-rings on the pressure line tip with new ones each time the connection is disassembled.
Chery Amulet. If the power steering has flowed.
Could you tell us about a popular sore when vibration goes to the steering wheel at idle? :)
Can you give the numbers of the front swing-out supports?
You have a strange car. Every time something breaks. I have been driving the Amulet since 2007, there are no big problems and there have not been, there was a trifle.
Today is 04/05/16 - as a sealant, does it hold or not? Since I, too, began to lose oil from the power steering tank and the question is: pour sealant or disassemble and make repairs. Please give me an answer so that I can decide.
Chery Amulet Steering Repair - definitely a responsible event.Therefore, only professionals should implement all repair work with the Chery Amulet steering system.
Repair of the Chery steering system itself involves a set of measures to restore its original condition. And the prerequisites for it may be malfunctions that can be noticed not only by the master, but also by the car owner himself during a direct inspection of the car.
We offer diagnostics and repair of Chery Amulet steering systems of any complexity in our specialized services in Moscow. Our experts are well versed in the features of the power steering and any malfunctions of the Chery Amulet steering rack. Therefore, it is in our power to repair any element of the steering system of this car with high quality and with a guarantee.
Repair of a steering rack Chery Amulet Is the most frequent service provided by our technical centers to the owners of these vehicles.
If the rail knocked on the Chery Amulet or began to eat, we will help you quickly solve this problem and restore the operation of the unit.
In order to repair the steering rack on Chery Amulet, we have not only special equipment, but also staff who understand the matter. We work to strict standards. Therefore, for Chery Amulet we give a guarantee for all repair work on the steering rack.
To carry out the repair of the Chery Amulet rail correctly, it is necessary to first diagnose both the rail itself and other steering elements.
We always perform preliminary steering diagnostics on Chery Amulet first. It shows whether you need to remove the rail and check it at the stand.
If a rail malfunction becomes obvious to the master, he disassembles it for troubleshooting and possible bulkheads. If the corrosion of the rack shaft and other elements is not critical, we can restore the rack of your Chery Amulet. If not, then it would be better to change it.
If replacement is not required, then the master makes an estimate for spare parts and agrees on the cost of repairing the rail. How much the entire repair will cost is directly affected by the bulkhead of the rail and the number of new spare parts. The very same price for removing and installing the steering rack for Chery Amulet is fixed with us.
Adjusting the Chery Amulet rail is an important stage in the repair, which can also be an independent service. For example, if on your Chery Amulet the rail is loose and there is a backlash, then it is quite possible that you can simply adjust it.
But it is important to remember that the adjustment of the rail is required for Chery Amulet after its removal and installation, and even more so after repair work.
Replacing the steering rack with a Chery Amulet is the easiest way to restore the operation of this unit.
Many craftsmen, when identifying problems in the rail, insist on replacing it. In our technical centers for the repair of rails, we, of course, can restore the Cherie Amulet rail even if it is in poor condition.
However, sometimes this is simply not advisable. Therefore, we can offer the car owner options, from which, according to his own considerations, he will choose the best one for himself. Including we can offer:
purchase and installation of a contract rail
installation of a new rail on Chery Amulet
restoration of an old rail from yours or another Cherie Amulet of the same modification
Chery Amulet owners often face a choice when it comes to replacing the steering rack. On the one hand, they can buy a new steering rack on Chery Amulet, on the other hand, many consider it an unreasonable waste. Therefore, the majority is inclined to buy contract rails or even used ones. options.
Our managers will always take into account the main wishes of the client and will be able to choose a profitable option. At the same time, they know exactly what type of rake is needed for your Chery Amulet modification, and will tell you how much a new one will cost, and how much used one.
It is important that when you buy a steering rack for Chery Amulet from us, in conjunction with the work on its installation, you will receive a discount and a guarantee. It applies both to the unit itself and to work. We pre-check all sold racks.
In addition, if the necessary spare part is not available, we know exactly where to get it quickly and inexpensively. So buy rail for Cherie Amulet with us it is possible in almost any case without a long wait and big expenses.
Before replacing the power steering fluid with a Chery Amulet, first of all, it is important to check the tightness of the power steering system, and, if necessary, replace the rack seals and oil seals, as well as install new ShVD instead of damaged ones, if any.
Our technicians always check the power steering system for leaks. In addition, we will definitely check whether it is really necessary to change the power steering oil on your Chery Amulet. If replacement is necessary, we will select the correct technical fluid, taking into account the manufacturer's recommendations and our own experience.
The scheme for replacing power steering fluid with Chery Amulet is almost standard. Therefore, our masters will easily cope with it in a short time.
After replacing the fluid or carrying out any work with the power steering system, pumping the power steering on the Chery Amulet is simply necessary. Air in the system is unacceptable and is a sign of system malfunction.
It is not only the rack that can break in the steering system. If the steering wheel on Chery Amulet began to rotate tightly, then you should pay attention to the power steering.
Usually, the repair of the power steering on the Chery Amulet is carried out as part of the complete restoration of the steering system. Therefore, it involves the replacement of worn out elements.
Repair of the power steering pump on Chery Amulet requires high qualifications. We have craftsmen who know how to repair and recycle this vehicle's power steering pump.
And after a preliminary check of the pump, they will say for sure what is failing and whether it needs to be repaired at all. Most often, the repair covers only the replacement of the power steering pump with a Chery Amulet. To do this, through our managers, you can select and buy a new power steering pump or a refurbished one, if one is available for its installation.
You can come to repair the rail of a Chery Amulet car at any of our car services. Our car services can be found in different parts of the city of Moscow, which will allow you to choose an option closer to your location. To skip the line, just call the phone number and make an appointment with the master !
We hire only qualified specialists, so it's simply impossible to run into an insufficiently competent person! The work is carried out in accordance with all technical requirements (you can familiarize yourself with it before starting work). In addition, we give a guarantee for our work, our specialist will advise you in more detail. With him, you can also discuss all the nuances of the upcoming rail bulkhead or its replacement.
You can call us at any time during the working day. Even if you are going to drive up within half an hour, we recommend that you notify of your arrival by calling in advance. So, we can reduce your waiting time at the reception. The foreman will already know the basic information about your car and the main complaints.
So, let's begin. Today I will show you how it is going power steering pump Chery Amulet .
If your copy cannot be repaired, I advise you to look for a new one on the Asia Center website.
The housing is pre-lubricated with oil.
We insert the core into our power steering pump. Op. Something she does not want to climb.
We take a screwdriver. And we try to plant with its help. It still doesn't work. This is certainly not good.
Now let's try to press it in by force. We tighten the cover on the power steering pump Chery Amulet and take two bolts.
We put them in place and tighten. Crushed. There is no gap, so everything is fine.
We spin it back. And now we insert the element with lamellas.
They have a sharp edge and a smooth one. So, we put it smooth out. We have 10 of them. And it is advisable to pre-lubricate them.
Even if you bend over and insert the slats with a sharp edge, then this is not scary. The only thing is that a little noise may appear.
The element is assembled, and we install it in the power steering pump Chery Amulet. Ready.
Now we put on such a cover.If there are irregularities on the inner surface on it, then all of them must be removed with zero sandpaper. And then grease with oil.
Please note that there is a groove. You need to install this groove inward.
Fingers are now inserted into the pump. There are two of them.
Now the matter is small. We take the cover and the seal ring. We coat it all with oil. We insert it into the groove.
And we close our pump with a lid. Insert the lid and assemble. That's all.
Chery Amulet user manual
Our model price ranges from 10-12 thousand dollars.
Or "Recipe for rolling cucumbers"
So. I will try to briefly describe the procedure for switching from a mechanical rail to a rail with power steering.
Rail
She is 100% identical to her native one, because Cheri Amulet is a Chinese clone of Seat Toleto. I read that you can also screw in the rail from the Chevy Niva. but it's better to clean China than our auto industry.
We (if a car without an air conditioner) need one without. It is easy to distinguish between them. the platform for the pulley is tight to the pump casing.
Hoses
This is a mount for a banjo bolt (this mount was on the B4 of the later years, and before that the hose had a screwed part at the end). I also ordered it before existential.
Bolt: WHT 001 799
Kordanchik
Need a cardan from the shaft with power steering. The hairstyle is assembled, the part that is from the shaft, and the part that is attached to the rail.
The price of the cardan on the parsing is from 500-700r, so I purely accidentally found an adjustable steering column for 1000 with a cardan!
Traction
Anthers
bracket
Bachek
The price of this is 180 rubles. There is also a metal version (there you can change the filter. My version, disposable). But I didn't like metal. because it doesn't look very good, and you can't see how much liquid is in it. you need to unscrew the lid all the time and look into it.
Liquid
Pulleys
And you will also need to change the pulley on the pump. because by default it stands there with a negative offset. You will need a regular one, without departure. it can be seen in the photo above.
Belts
Installation
Assembled rail with replaced anthers and rods:
Since the replacement of the steering column was planned, it was also dismantled:
The larva there is essno different, after reading the report on vw.msk, on replacing the larva:
Replacing them in places frees us from the drilling operation.
Issue price 900r (horror)
I had a past year replacement of struts and stabilizer bushings. on sheds it goes 21mm, so if someone tells you that 21 went only on BP6, send it in a forest. The assembly supports have also been replaced!
Well, the reservoir looks like this on the bracket:
So now we drive with ease!
VIDEO I will add that Max and I took the rails at the same disassembly) with a difference of a couple of days. Mine flowed mercilessly, twisted it a little bit, and everything was already mixed into the liquid. I did not see the point in expensive and short-lived repairs. But it was easier for me: the power steering was originally. They waved the rail, they screwed in their own rods with tips (Amuletovskie ones are a little shorter), connected the Passat hoses, flushed the pump and voila! Dextron II poured liquid, the pump stopped howling, the steering wheel became very lug.
Here on the drive people wrote. they say bought a new Chinese rail, did not leave and 2000 km. flowed.
Max! Ours were factory, not coperative!
I also wanted to write about the message on the drive-horror.
I changed myself on a pasik for a Cherevskaya rail. I took a new one in the store somewhere for 5600 rubles. And the cordanchik Cherevsky native nashol for 650 rubles (delta from 650 to 2000) made his thrust Cherevskie shorter by 3 cm. In the service replaced the rake for 2000 rubles
around 9000 thousand
And I forgot about the bad steering wheel and other rubbish +)))))
I also have a problem with the power steering.
I'm thinking of trying to replace it with “Amuletovskaya”.
What's her number? Tell me what?
I'm not going to restore my power steering yet - there are no funds.
Here I am thinking about the most budget option.
In the meantime, I want to somehow turn off the power steering. But as?
They say you need to put another pulley and a belt.
And what numbers are unknown.
I also have a problem with the power steering.
I'm thinking of trying to replace it with “Amuletovskaya”.
What's her number? Tell me what?
I'm not going to restore my power steering yet - there are no funds.
Here I am thinking about the most budget option.
In the meantime, I want to somehow turn off the power steering. But as?
They say you need to put another pulley and a belt.
And what numbers are unknown.
Stupidly turning off is not an option!
Although it may be better if the slurry is drained. but it seems to me that this is a bad idea))
Video (click to play).
You will now teach Without slurry - this, at least, will throw the power steering pump into the trash)
