In detail: do-it-yourself repair of clay ceilings from a real master for the site my.housecope.com.
We bought an adobe house 15 years ago. The outside was plastered, but the structure cracks with small cracks. The ceiling is cracked. How to repair a ceiling? Can gypsum plaster be used? Or do you still need a cement mortar? Solution proportions? I NEED DETAILED ADVICE. I hope for an answer.
Elena, Nevinnomyssk.
Hello Elena from Nevinnomyssk!
Give advice, and for some reason it will not be performed properly. We'll have to answer morally.
I can only say what I know and nothing more. Many of the secrets of the construction of adobe houses have sunk into oblivion along with their builders.
Currently, adobe construction is not widespread. It is practiced in some southern regions and in Central Russia, but here it is more exotic. The prejudice against the material affects, because in the old days trivial dung was added to adobe, or, more simply, manure. And who is pleased to know that he will live in dung?
Times have changed, almost no manure is added to adobe, but prejudices remain.
They build from adobe, mostly in the countryside, ordinary people, farmers, where they still exist. Because there is a lot of clay and straw here, and other materials are needed to a minimum.
If the house is made of adobe, then its ceiling is also made of it. That is, a completely homogeneous material. This is me at the expense of not using gypsum plaster and cement mortar.
First, about adobe plaster. Its quality depends on the constituent components, which are used as clay, sand, organic fillers (straw, wood, chaff, etc.), water.
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Clay should be fine-grained in structure, it is easier to mix it.
When they take greasy clay or violate the proportion of the components, the result is such a "parsley" that you have when all the plaster is covered with small cracks. And with skinny clay, it will crumble altogether.
Clay is harvested in summer. They are brought from quarries, dumped into rolls (otherwise, beds) up to a meter high and about two meters wide. It turns out an oblong truncated pyramid. In these rolls, it is advisable to lay it in layers 20 centimeters thick, spilling these layers with water. In winter, such heaps freeze through and, as the old people say, “fluffs up” the clay. And it will be used the next season for work. With this method, the properties of the clay are improved for further work with it.
If there is no desire to drag out the work, then after being brought in from the quarry, the clay is immediately scattered in a small layer, crushed well so that there are no large pieces. Add sand (less often - very fine gravel with sand) and mix it all thoroughly. The drier the clay and sand, the better you mix.
For example, to prepare 1 cubic meter of adobe from clay of medium fat content, take about 3.5 parts of it, one part of sand, about 9 kilograms of organic (otherwise fibrous) fillers. With more oily clay, they take less of it, the same amount of sand, and more fillers.
I do not give the definition of the degree of fat content of the clay, it is long and tedious to tell, it is described in detail on the Internet, if you wish, you will find it.
After that, about 1/4 - 1/5 of the water is poured (from the volume of the mixture of clay and sand), with the help of a shovel they achieve a good soaking of all this. Then add organic fillers, which are used as straw, chaff, chaff, chaff, firewood, etc.
Raw adobe bricks are made from the resulting mass.
And directly for plaster, they often use a solution of lime, clay and organic additives in a ratio of 1/1 / 0.5.
For plastering the walls, small wooden pegs about 7 centimeters long are additionally used. Their square-nesting method (some people call it staggered) after 10-15-20 centimeters are driven into the walls to a depth of about 5 centimeters, leaving a couple of centimeters under the plaster. It is preferable to hammer the pegs into the masonry joints between the adobe blocks.
When applying plaster to the ceiling, for better retention, wood shingles were previously used, now they increasingly use various meshes (simple metal, welded, plastic) with small cells.
Leveling the plaster layer - with floats and trowels.
Try, experiment, show more imagination. And everything should work out.
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Clay ceiling decoration is now practically not used and has long become exotic. But, in the houses of the old building, you can still find a clay ceiling and, accordingly, questions arise about its operation and repair. In this material we will try to answer the most frequent questions and consider possible options for repairing such coatings.
During operation, such coatings do not cause any particular problems. The only thing worth remembering constantly is that they really do not like water and its effects. It is necessary to minimize the contact of the clay surface with water. Otherwise, the clay ceilings will be similar to the standard ones, treated with gypsum plaster.
However, no one has done such a design for a long time, which means that your ceiling has been for many years and it can cause many problems associated with this. The main troubles that the owners of such floors may face will be as follows:
Sagging of a section of the ceiling or of the entire plane.
The appearance of spots.
Loose pieces of clay.
Mold and rot.
Bumps, cracks and dents on the surface.
The best, but, at the same time, the most difficult solution to all problems with such ceilings is a complete rework. That is, cleaning the floor from the clay layer to the base and applying a new coating from modern plaster mixes or finishing with other materials. This way will save you from all problems in the future.
The disadvantages of such a solution include a lot of different factors - from the complexity of the work to the time it will take to complete such a repair. It will be necessary not only to remove a layer of old clay, but also to repair the base, which is most often a shingle, and its restoration is a very difficult process.
In addition, a new layer of plaster must be applied to the renewed base. To do this so that you can admire the ceiling later, only a professional master can, who, alas, will take a lot of money for the work. Therefore, this method is only suitable for those who have the time and financial ability to make long and expensive repairs.
The second option is much simpler in terms of execution and will cost significantly less. Local restoration of damaged areas is implied. Various materials are suitable for such repairs - drywall, gypsum or cement plaster, and so on. In this case, the clay ceiling is restored only in the damaged area and the repair takes place in the following order:
The damaged part is cleaned of dirt and loose materials.
The adjacent areas of the coating are checked for strength and, if necessary, falling off fragments are removed.
A shingle or other base on which the clay was held is being restored.
Surfaces are treated with primers and antibacterial compounds.
The damaged area is sealed with a piece of gypsum plasterboard of a suitable shape and size or sealed with a plaster mixture.
The plane is leveled with a putty compound and painted to match the main surface.
However, this method is also not a panacea - after a while, the ceiling will start to cause problems again, since only a small part of it has been repaired, and the main plane is still made of old clay. Therefore, there is another method that combines the advantages of the previous two.
It consists in removing the clay completely, before shingles. After that, its surface is treated with compounds that prevent rotting, as well as the development of mold, and on this, the work with the old coating ends. Installation of a new suspended ceiling structure begins.
The method is less laborious than the first one, but it takes more time than the second one. A kind of compromise. However, this solution has many advantages over other finishes.
The new ceiling will be really new.
There are a lot of options for such designs - from stretch fabric to drywall compositions.
There will be a ceiling space that can be used rationally.
If necessary, you can insulate the ceiling or add a layer of soundproofing.
Such repairs will cost less than restoring the original clay layer.
This design looks much better than the restored ceilings.
Do-it-yourself ceiling repair can be done even by an ignorant person in the construction business, if you get down to business with intelligence and ingenuity :). In fact, such a repair is not difficult to do, which is what this short story about the repair of an old ceiling tells about.
For many years, despite all the repairs in the house, the old ceiling, plastered with clay and whitewashed with chalk, remained in the corridor. This ceiling has already turned 80 years old.
To repair it, they decided to roll off the old clay plaster. When they did this, they saw that the ceiling was made of pine slab (or wicked). These are such practically shapeless boards that did not lie in one plane and protruded one below the other.
The top was stuffed with a cladding made of fairly thick pine sticks. And all these irregularities were hidden by a thick layer of clay. I had to remove all this clay along with the clinging. To protect the boards from rotting, and most importantly from fire, the boards were painted with non-combustible paint, which will last another ten years.
To compensate for the heat-shielding properties of the clay, a 10 mm thick foil insulation was used, which was fastened with staples using a construction stapler to the “bare” boards.
After that, it was necessary to hang drywall. Before starting work with drywall, we carefully read the instructions for its installation.
For the installation of drywall, a metal UD profile and a CD profile were used.
Considering that the base of the ceiling was uneven, in order to align the ceiling around the perimeter, we made the markings for the installation of the UD-profile. For this, a specially made measuring bar was used.
To begin with, we measured the height from the floor with a tape measure, and found the lowest point of the ceiling. We reduced this size by 30 mm, which corresponds to the height of the UD-profile, and cut the bar to the obtained size. Further, taking notes on the walls of the corridor (the number depends on the available length of the ruler), we connected them into a solid line on each wall. Along the marked lines, a UD-profile was installed along the entire perimeter, using a K 6/35 plastic dowel (diameter 6 mm; length 35 mm) to attach it to the walls.
Considering that there is an electric meter and a junction box in the corridor, all the wires were laid in corrugated non-combustible sleeves and attached to the ceiling with plastic brackets. In the center of the ceiling (the intersection of two diagonals), one wire for the lamp was brought out.
We cut 9 pieces of CD-profiles to fit the width of the corridor and installed them with a step of 600 mm along the length of the corridor. The step was marked in the center of the profile. This is necessary so that the drywall sheets are joined on the profiles. After that, the profiles were attached to the ceiling with straight hangers at the rate of three hangers for each profile. To attach direct suspensions to the ceiling base, wood screws were used (they have a stretched cutting pitch) with a diameter of 3.5 mm and a length of 40 mm. To fix the profiles on the suspensions, metal screws with a diameter of 3.5 mm and a length of 25 mm were used.
For filing the ceiling, a moisture-resistant plasterboard with a thickness of 9.5 mm was used. Sheet dimensions: 1.2 meters x 2.5 meters. We cut the sheets to the required dimensions, taking into account that we will be laying with the narrow side (1.2 m) along the CD-profiles. Plasterboard sheets were laid so that there were no intersections of four sheets. A 12 mm hole was drilled in the center of the ceiling to lead the wire to the luminaire. We fixed drywall sheets to metal profiles with self-tapping screws 3.5 mm in diameter and 35 mm long. All seams at the joints of the drywall were glued with reinforcing tape.
The tape was fastened using a starting putty. After the putty had dried (10 hours), it was cleaned with a mesh float. Then putty was made with starting putty on the entire surface of the ceiling. After the starting putty had dried, the entire surface was cleaned with a mesh trowel. After stripping, a finishing putty was applied. After 10 hours, they were painted with acrylic paint using a fur roller.
All work was carried out by one performer. The most inconvenient process in the work was the operation of installing and holding drywall sheets during its installation. To facilitate the work, two T-shaped supports were made from the boards, with which the drywall was pressed and held from the floor.