In detail: do-it-yourself repair of a Chinese outboard motor from a real master for the site my.housecope.com.
This topic is perhaps one of the most relevant today, which is quite understandable. Long gone are the days when mainly domestic "Neptunes" and "Whirlwinds" roamed the water, and the appearance of spare parts laid out on the shore and repairs carried out, as they say, "on the knee" were perceived as the norm of life. Now a similar picture can be observed mainly in the outback. The situation has changed dramatically. The market offers the Russian consumer an almost full range of the latest water-motor equipment from abroad. The availability of engines from the world's leading manufacturers raises a number of questions, and our task is to understand them.
The first question and, perhaps, the main one, which, unfortunately, for most motor owners simply does not arise: how to choose the right propeller? This does not directly apply to engine repair, but it is extremely important to ensure the most favorable operating conditions for the engine as a whole and increase its resource. In other words, a correctly selected screw can reduce the likelihood of a malfunction, and therefore avoid the repair itself. The fact is that any outboard or stationary engine has a certain rpm range, in which it will develop maximum power and at the same time have optimal fuel consumption. Going beyond this range in one direction or another leads to a decrease in engine performance and an increase in fuel consumption.
There are a number of motors, the connection of tachometers to which is not structurally provided. In this case, when carrying out the test, it is necessary to use special tachometers that allow reading information from high-voltage spark plug wires. And to do this, you will have to again contact a service center equipped with a similar tool. And one more note: the standard propellers that come with the motor are usually matched exactly according to the results of such a test, but remember that your equipment (motor, propeller, boat, load) may become an exception to the rule.
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Suppose that by selecting the propeller we have created the conditions for the engine for normal operation. But technique is technique, and breakdowns are still possible. True, there is a difference between breakage and breakdown. Therefore, let's try to figure out how to behave in a given situation. We will immediately exclude the option when the life and health of people depend on the performance of the motor - any interventions are permissible here. We will only consider the issues of current repairs.
It turns out that even a normally running motor requires periodic maintenance. Can you do it yourself? There is no definite answer, and here's why. If you are a technically competent person with experience in dealing with such equipment, and the motor is under warranty, it is advisable to obtain permission for scheduled maintenance from your nearest dealer. Most likely, such permission will be given, and then - down with self-confidence. Begin by carefully reading the instruction manual. In the list of routine maintenance, items are possible that are intended only for your specific motor. Lubricants and equipment used for servicing must be original.
After the expiration of the warranty period, the frequency and quality of maintenance remain on your conscience, although you will most likely not be able to completely avoid communicating with the service workers.In the list of routine maintenance specified in the operating instructions, there are those that require high qualifications, special tools and technical documentation. As for the various adjustments, the instruction limits the degree of intervention. You should be especially careful with carburetor settings. Excessively high idle speeds can lead to damage to gearbox parts due to the more severe shock mode when shifting gears. Incorrect adjustment of the mixture quality will lead to a deterioration in the engine operating conditions, which can entail quite serious consequences. I strongly advise against synchronizing the carburetors of four-stroke engines - without a special tool and a certain skill, the result will be negative. And one more tip: do not neglect the preservation of the engine (the procedure is described in detail in the instructions) and proper transportation, especially of four-stroke.
Repair associated with the replacement of any engine components or requiring serious diagnostics directly depends on the degree of technical training of the motor owner and equipment. The range of engines currently used on boats is diverse: they are simple carburetor engines, fuel injection systems for four-stroke and two-stroke engines, with OptiMax systems from Mercury and HPDI systems from Yamaha, and with various lubrication systems. All this requires constant professional retraining even from full-time mechanics. Of course, the owner of the motor is not faced with such a task, but he will not receive complete technical documentation for his motor anywhere. It is outlined in the "Service Manual" - a book used by mechanics. It does not go on sale. And if it will probably be possible to understand low-power carburetor motors, and flaws in the repair will not cause consequences, then a sane person himself will not approach a large motor, as "packed" as possible with electronics. And with all due respect to the craftsmen, I do not advise you to trust the engine to a master from a nearby garage. It is your motor that may be structurally different from those that it has successfully repaired before.
There is one more question, the answer to which must be found before proceeding with the repair: do you have a special tool? Having been engaged in the service of imported motors for far from the first year, I have seen enough and heard enough of everyone, but more often they say one thing: “Yes, I didn't have to do it myself. And how much will it cost now? " There is only one rule: if none of the tools you know are suitable for removing or unscrewing a part, stop - most likely a special tool is required for this procedure. I will say more, the tool that you think is suitable can affect the parts precisely in those places that cannot be loaded. In this case, you will not only break the part, but also significantly complicate the subsequent repair.
What I would like to draw the readers' attention to is the problem of spare parts. Where to get them, use "relatives" or find something suitable, does a worn part require replacement or will it still serve? In my practice, there was one motor on which an anti-corrosion anode, not original, but cheap, lasted longer than the engine, but at the same time had a very good presentation. Do not assume that all non-original spare parts are rubbish. There are also very worthy manufacturers. But, in my opinion, if there is an opportunity, it is better, instead of wasting energy, time, and therefore money on finding suitable ones, to contact technical specialists and be confident in the quality of the spare parts purchased. This, incidentally, also applies to oils. In addition, experts will advise which parts you need to purchase in a particular case, since quite often spare parts need to be changed in a bundle.
Replacing one part will not always correct the problem.A number of gaskets, lock washers, oil seals must be changed during repairs, even if they are outwardly in good condition. As for the clearances, permissible beats, torques and tightening sequence, then in this case it is better to get professional advice, at least by phone, e-mail or regular mail.
It is quite widely believed that it makes sense to purchase the simplest carburetor motors so that you can troubleshoot yourself. This is only partly true. Engines of small and medium power do not require complex technical solutions, but talking about the simplicity of high power motors, even if they are carburetor ones, is incorrect. In order to save gasoline and optimize the quality of the mixture, the fuel systems and ignition systems of such engines are quite complicated, which reduces their advantage over injection or the same OptiMax to a minimum. And given the best power and weight indicators of the latter and their efficiency, the question disappears by itself. Indeed, caution should be exercised when approaching fundamentally new and heavily compressed models. I will say more: complex motors, as a rule, have a protection system that notifies of faults that have occurred and changes the operating mode in such a way as not to damage the engine and at the same time operate it. A complicated-looking engine is often much easier to operate than a carburetor of the same power. Unfortunately, in this matter, many are still very conservative - the engine is frightening, the fear of the electronics with which the injection motors are equipped.
Considering all of the above, I highly recommend making repairs, adjustments and routine maintenance at a certified service center. It is certified. If, for financial reasons or due to the territorial remoteness of such a center, you are forced to carry out repairs yourself, then, again, it is still necessary to consult a specialist.
Within the framework of one or even several articles, it is impossible to outline all the subtleties of repairing an engine. But there are general trends in the maintenance of certain nodes. The table above lists the main points that must be taken into account when starting a repair.
D. Semenov, service manager, Mercury-NII TM, CJSC.
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Message hdx » 31.10.2011 01:13
Dear water motors, let us share the experience of repairing this motor in this thread.
I bought this HDX-15 motor in the spring of 2011, I ran it in completely satisfied, do not believe that the Chinese are bad.
But the trouble all the same happened on one of the solitary autumn days, it stopped developing momentum, that is, start everything up at idle, you accelerate, it seems like everything is in order, but in the load it does not gain momentum when you abruptly release the gas it stalls.
It was immediately clear that something was wrong with the fuel system.
I thought the carb was clogged
there is a filter in front of it, at first it looked everything is ok there the mesh is clean, I think out of my mind I will clean the carb all the same, but then a breakdown crawled out, it turned out that the carburetor pins were loosened and for this it sucked air (it seemed like a poor mixture was obtained), pulled it up and again everything was ok.
But here's the catch, I unscrewed the carburetor, somebody knows how to properly regulate it, for this motor it works normally, idle keeps it, but the consumption seems to be more.
Comrades, let's both of them without flooding. The man figured it out himself wrote what helped. Others will have a hint. there is no need for unnecessary disputes and an increase in messages in the topic, otherwise you will get tired of reading until you get to the bottom of the problem.
Thank you for your understanding, I hope I didn't offend anyone
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We constantly hear China bullshit and like add another half of the Chinese and buy a proven one over the years.
The Chinese have been in our country for several years and there are already statistics of their operation, let's share what, how and under what conditions did you break down?
I know that there are specialized topics for each brand, but I want to collect more reviews about the Chinese from the owners here! (and not from those who saw and heard something somewhere)
In fact, I would like answers of the form: The exact name of the motor, operating time, breakdown, cause, elimination time (search for spare parts, etc.)
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I'll start with myself.
my first experimental subject after my grandfather's neptune was
SEA-PRO T 9.8 of the first untested batches of commercials some 5-6 years ago, at 7 hours of running-in, like many others, the petal valves crumbled and the motor stood for a month and a half in the warranty (there was no zch) summer without a motor was ruined, after repair it was still summer for me pleased with reliability.
the second was HIDEA 9.9 FHS, blown away at 15, here the troubleshooter had a complete canister, the thread on the plug came off for 1 week, but thanks to the representative of hidea, a new canister was sent to me and the engine made me happy for 3 years. until I myself ran into the rocks and bent the propeller shaft and the propeller for ejection (repair 7 thousand, I think it's not expensive)
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Do-it-yourself bulkhead and repair of the Veterok-8 boat motor: a photo of the work done, as well as a video of the boat motor after repair.
Hello everyone! Here I went over my outboard motor "Veterok". This business is very interesting for me. Of course, it was possible to take a used Japanese or Chinese motor, I just got into the taste of repairing a "sovkomotor", which is still needed for a "mental" rest.
The following work has been done: complete disassembly of the Veterok motor for components, revision of the gearbox, replacement of the pump, replacement of the pump bearing and oil seal, pump mirrors, replacement of all gaskets where possible, complete repainting, replacement of all rubber (tubes) on the motorcycle head.
The first start-up showed good performance of the motor, the "hot" starts from "half turn", the cooling works perfectly.
In general, I am glad of the work done, then photos and videos with a motor.
Replaced the bearing, oil seal and pump cup gasket.
In the photo: the already assembled gearbox and pump.
Updated the swivel clamp.
Slewing gear, clamp and control plate.
As a result, an old Soviet-made outboard motor is back on track.
This video shows the operation of the Veterok-8 outboard motor after the bulkhead.
Video: operation of the outboard motor at low gas.