In detail: do-it-yourself repair of the VAZ 2110 gearbox takes off 4th gear from a real master for the site my.housecope.com.
Often, the owners of the VAZ 2110 during the operation of the car are faced with a problem: the first speed takes off... The reason for this behavior of the gearbox is its design features and the extremely poor condition of our expensive, which negatively affects the wear of spare parts. And if the car has the second speed takes off - this, in most cases, leads to an almost complete bulkhead of the entire checkpoint, so it is better not to delay solving the problem!
However, first you need to figure it out: why does the speed take off and where exactly to look for the reason for this behavior of the car?
The main reason for problems with the gearbox is excessive wear of the synchronizer, output shafts, loosening of the gear lever or violation of the rules for attaching the gearbox and engine to the car body. It is better not to delay with the elimination of a malfunction of this kind, because an inopportunely departed gear can endanger not only you, but also other road users.
Repair usually comes down to adjusting the shafts, adjusting the yoke clamp, less often there is a need to replace synchronizers, and in very rare cases a flywheel replacement is required. If the problem is not solved immediately after its occurrence, after a couple of thousand kilometers (and sometimes several hundred kilometers are enough) the box may become unusable and cannot be repaired, but only completely replaced. However, in general, the VAZ 2110 gearbox is quite reliable and maintainable, and it will not be easy to bring it to the point of needing a complete replacement.
You can clarify the nature of the problem if you conduct a small test drive on a flat section of road with good quality surface. It is enough to drive on it at low speed and at the time of gear shifting listen to the operation of the box. To simplify the task and speed up the work, it will be useful to help a neighbor or friend, who, sitting in the passenger seat, will also carefully "listen" to the car.
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With the question “Why does the speed take off?"We have more than figured it out, and it's time to figure out how to fix this breakdown.
In the case when the departure of the transmission is accompanied by a knock, ringing or light grinding, the problem almost always lies in the box itself - loosening of the secondary shaft or wear of the synchronizers. This problem can be solved only in a well-equipped garage or technical station and the presence of minimal experience with the checkpoint. The longitudinal play of the secondary shaft is usually eliminated by replacing the retaining rings and subsequent adjustment of the shaft, while worn out synchronizers must be replaced.
But if the speed flies out silently, then the cause of all the troubles lies in the wings: or blockage by foreign objects, or displacement of the clamp, or deformation of the ball of the retainer.
If the problem just showed up and the first speed takes off, but there is no way to visit the workshop, you can try to fix the situation in an ordinary garage. Adjusting the rocker is reduced to loosening the clamp, followed by shifting gears in order, while controlling the quality of the gear engagement. You may have to make several test runs during the adjustment process. Also, experienced craftsmen advise, using a grinder, to deepen the grooves in the wings, which are intended for the retainer ball, thereby increasing the reliability of fixing the lever in a given position.
But if over time you notice that the problem not only returned, but also worsened - namely the second speed takes off - then one cannot do without a visit to the master and major repairs.
So now you know why speed takes off on a VAZ 2110 and how to eliminate this unpleasant, and sometimes even dangerous, drawback.
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Shuron Dec 21, 2007
I put in 2nd gear, just hit the gas and be in neutral. To go to the 2nd you have to keep the shift knob all the time. What died in the box? How long can you ride with such a jamb?
you have either the gear lock is broken, or the fork 1; 2 gears were demolished and the 2nd gear seemed to be not included, because of this, it crashes
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Shuron Dec 21, 2007
you have either the gear lock is broken, or the fork 1; 2 gears were demolished and the 2nd gear seemed to be not included, because of this, it crashes
box repair indiscriminate is not real? How much to ride with such garbage, it won't jam something there?
box repair indiscriminate is not real? How much to ride with such garbage, it won't jam something there?
It is unrealistic to fix it indiscriminately. He himself left 25 thousand, then the first one began to fly out Then he stole a new box and put it
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Shuron Dec 21, 2007
It is unrealistic to fix it indiscriminately. He himself left 25 thousand, then the first one began to fly out Then he stole a new box and put it
Thank you. Can you give some advice on how to optimize your driving with such nonsense?
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Shuron Dec 21, 2007
The integrity of the retainer can be checked without removing the gearbox. To do this, you need to unscrew such a small lid (a piece of rectangular metal) on two bolts, there will be 3 holes under it. In each of them there is a ball and a spring, this cap presses on the springs, the springs on the balls, and they enter the grooves on the shaft, on which the forks are fixed and fix the shaft in the desired position. This is an old-style gearbox, installed earlier on the ninth family. On the tenth, they began to put a slightly different design - there is no this cap, but there are springs and balls, now each spring is held by crap like a bolt. Those. it all looks like 3 bolt heads located in one line close to each other. You can carefully unscrew the bolt and check the condition of the spring and ball. All this economy is located at the bottom of the box, next to it is the suspension rod (extension), the bolt heads look down and forward. When unscrewed, oil will flow and the contents will fall out. Alternatively, see if anything interferes with turning on the 2nd gear in the area of the lever itself, under the cover. The rest of the options entail the disassembly of the checkpoint.
Let's look at the springs with balls. I looked under the cover, nothing interferes. And someone rented the box himself in the garage, is this a gem?
Hemorrhoids are relatively small, but if you already know how to remove them. It is better to take an assistant and work in the pit, it is possible without her, but it is more inconvenient.
I tried to remove the box myself, everything was done according to the instructions, three of us. evaporated, the body was broken when they tried to knock out the wheel drives, besides, everyone was overwhelmed. in the end everything was assembled as it was and went to the service. And there they were amazed - how they do everything cleverly, in general the advice is this - if there is a friend who has already encountered boxes, you can try to take it off. but the first time, in my opinion, is better in service, before that I was the forty-first Muscovite - I went through two times, and there were no such problems, but here for this bolt - one special key - for that other. for example, turn the starter key to 15! needed. these are the pies (by the way, after repair in the service, the body was covered with cold welding, while it is holding)
Thank you. Can you give some advice on how to optimize your driving with such nonsense?
Advice one, after switching to second gear, keep the lever in the second gear position. Under load, it usually does not fly out, only when the engine speed is decelerated. In general, it would be necessary to repair it.
Advice one, after switching to second gear, keep the lever in the second gear position.Under load, it usually does not fly out, only when the engine speed is decelerated. In general, it would be necessary to repair it.
I have the same nonsense began to appear with the first gear ((((while I hold my hand through time, the car passed 56 thousand, damn expensive box repair, I don’t want to climb.
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Shuron 03 Jan 2008
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Shuron 04 Jan 2008
It depends on what you want to upgrade there. The cheapest option is to repair what you have yourself, but if there are hands growing straight.
People say that hands are and grow almost straight. Only now the frost has begun, and the garage is cold, so with this option you have to wait until summer. Walking is not an option. You need to contact the servicemen. So I ask what is the best way to proceed, take a new box or fix this one? For the money, it is certainly more expensive to take a new one, but in the services they say that the repair one will travel for another half a year and then the same crap.
If there is money, it is better to put my opinion on a new one. Spare parts are of poor quality, you still can't do it yourself, and so there is less hemorrhoids. And you will pokurochish the old one, maybe you will change it, and then you will either sell it or put it on. But I don't think cold welding is good.
A new box - the same spare part (rejected at the factory or assembled from stolen parts in a nearby garage) - is not the best example. The advantage of hand-made repairs is that later it will be possible to drive with confidence on this box and not expect a “surprise” from it, besides, you can put the “necessary” shafts, change the gear ratios, etc. whatever your heart desires. As far as I remember, the second gear initially flew out - what to do there with cold welding. ? or to smear a broken clutch basket with it? If without options to do one hundred percent, then a new gearbox of course can also be (since I would not entrust the bulkhead to anyone, only myself).
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Shuron 05 Jan 2008
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Marty 05 Jan 2008
Everything, the complete end has come! The clutch pedal fell through, the clutch fell apart! Now you can't do without repairs, so I'm thinking, put a new gearbox or repair this one with some modernization? What does he think? What will be cheaper?
Happy new year, sir! You know, I am always interested in the first question - how do you drive? I do not want to itch and be branded as a "smart guy" BUT. You can kill Maybach in a day, or you can travel on a “kopeck” for 30 years. Based on the driving style and, accordingly, and put salary on your horse. Sporty - put on the ceramics of the tractive connection, Brembo brakes, lei 98, on average - put on the conveyor belt or, if there is an appropriate income, the e / p is better. But this is my personal opinion, without claims to the absolute. 😉
There was a nuisance, the VAZ 2110 gearbox had to be repaired. Repair of the unit is required when:
it is difficult to disengage and engage gears.
self-switching off of gears.
the occurrence of noise when changing gears.
transmission oil leak.
The reasons for the breakdown may be different, perhaps the timely oil change did not occur or the mechanism, simply, has exhausted its resource.
How is the VAZ 2110 gearbox repair carried out? Do-it-yourself VAZ 2110 checkpoint repair, video.
There are situations when the removal of the gearbox is not at all necessary, it is enough to adjust it. VAZ 2110 very often have problems with gear shifting, they are knocked out. To eliminate this problem, it is not at all necessary to remove the box, it is enough to adjust the gear selection drive mechanism. It is enough to get by with the adjustment in the following cases:
not so long ago, the input shaft bearing was replaced or any other repair where the gearbox was removed.
only one speed takes off.
while the car is moving, the speed does not switch well or jumps out altogether.
To adjust the gearbox you need:
Loosen the nut with the bolt, which is located under the machine, tightening the clamp for securing the box pull.
Using a screwdriver, push apart the clamp and the grooves of the rod. Place the stem in neutral.
Remove the cover from the gearbox.
In order to block the reverse gear, you need to put the lever in the window of the bracket cover.
Adjust the axial play in the rear direction and by turning to the left.
Put the clamp in place and tighten with the bolt.
In the above situations, a simple gearbox adjustment will suffice. This is much better than repairing the VAZ 2110 gearbox, disassembling and assembling the gearbox.
Procedure for disassembling the gearbox:
Remove the oil gauge from the gearbox. Remove the bolts holding the clutch cable.
Remove the bolts holding the rear cover. The cover is hermetically sealed, therefore, when removing, you can resort to using a hammer.
In order to prevent the shafts from turning during disassembly of the gearbox, turn on the third or fourth speed. Then unscrew the bolt that fixes the fifth gear.
Remove the fifth gear with the fork together.
Then, remove the gear from the output shaft and the fork. Then remove the plate that protects the bearings.
Below you can see the repair of the VAZ 2110 gearbox with your own hands video.
Having started to repair the VAZ 2110 gearbox, after all the actions described above, it is required to disassemble the crankcase and the working mechanism. Getting started:
We unscrew the spring plugs that hold the gear rods. After the plugs are unscrewed, end balls will fall out of the holes. We do the same with the plug that holds the reverse gear. If the balls did not fall out of the holes, then you can get them using a magnetic screwdriver.
Next, we unscrew the bolts that secure the gearbox housing to the clutch housing. After the bolts have been loosened, you can use a screwdriver to detach the crankcases.
Next step. Unscrew the rod from the first and second gear forks.
We do the same with the third, fourth and fifth gears, respectively. To remove the rod, it must be removed along with the gear shift parts.
It is necessary to remove the axle from the reverse gear and, of course, the gear.
Next, get the differential and two shafts with gears. Unscrew the three bolts that secure the gear mechanism and remove it from the crankcase.
Remove the rear arm bolt and remove the stem.
If necessary, remove the bearings of the input and output shaft with a cage.
Dismantling of the VAZ 2110 gearbox is completed.
Let's take a look at the most common problems:
The problem concerns the first transmission rate. It turns on very hard, when shifting gears, an extraneous sound is emitted, the speed flies out while driving.
The reasons may be as follows:
The synchronizer could be damaged.
The retainer spring has burst or is defective.
The speeds can switch independently due to the weakening of the lever.
Stock or plug problem. We need to replace them.
The next problem concerns the second gear. Most often, motorists are faced with the fact that the second speed jumps out or there are difficulties when it is turned on.
The following reasons may lie behind this:
The gear teeth are worn out, as a result of which they do not adhere well to the gearshift clutch. In this case, it is imperative to repair the VAZ 2110 gearbox. In the future, this can serve as a transmission departure.
If the transmission is flying out exclusively when driving on bumps, then we can say with confidence that the cause of this is a problem with the clutch.
Very often, in order to fix the problem with the second speed, you just need to change the fixing spring. If, after replacing the spring, the speed continues to fly out, then you need to remove the gearbox and make a major overhaul.
The occurrence of extraneous noise in the gearbox may be due to bearings that have failed. In order to find out, you need to check the backlash of the roller bearings that are installed in the clutch housing, the rolling bearings located on the primary and secondary shafts.
You need to check the forks and gear rods very carefully.These parts tend to deteriorate very quickly. If there are any obvious signs of deterioration of these mechanisms, then they must be immediately replaced with new ones. You can buy these parts at car dealerships.
If a motorist has a little experience in repairing a VAZ 2110 gearbox, then he can safely repair the gearbox on his own. From this article, it is clear that this is not so difficult to do. Even a car owner, who does not have enough experience and skills, can cope with this problem. But if, nevertheless, a person is far from this, and has no idea what and how to do, in this case, turning to a specialist for help will be the right decision. Of course, when contacting specialists for help, it will cost the car owner a certain amount of money. But it's better to pay the money and get a quick and high-quality gearbox repair.
Hello, your forum was advised! I would like to know if anyone has had this and why, and what to do next? 1 transfer takes off. That is, at first it sometimes flew out, then it came to the point that it only works by holding it with a hand. 2001 car VAZ 21102 mileage 26,000. Store carefully. What is the problem, or how much will the repair cost? I went to the Auto Service alone, they told me that 4500r removal of the checkpoint, bulkhead, installation, without parts. Is it so expensive, or is it still cheap?
I used the search. I found such topics, but such as I did not seem to have.
There is no click and no sound, no grinding, everything is very quiet. Flies out, even without load and not uphill.
It is not as difficult to repair a checkpoint on a VAZ 2110 with your own hands as it might seem at first glance. You will have to arm yourself with a set of tools, the necessary new parts to replace old ones, a few photos and videos for clarity, as well as an operation and repair manual. Plus, we recommend that you familiarize yourself with our material, which will make complex manipulations much easier.
To begin with, it will not be superfluous to study a video about repairing a gearbox on a VAZ 2110 with your own hands. This is for clarity, so to speak.
