Do-it-yourself steering rack repair Citroen Ksara

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Misha 19 Jul 2010

I changed the oil seals on the rail, I will not say how difficult it is for one. few bolts, but limited space. I applied the advice voiced in the posts above,
therefore, it makes no sense to describe it more precisely.
From additions:
I had to let go of part of the subframe, having previously jacked up in the area of ​​the lever.
Otherwise it was not removed. Took out across the driver's side.
A separate question about the steering wheel cardan - it turns out to sit on the side, and not on top of the steering wheel shaft.
Those. when you take it out to the side (from either side, it is enough to unscrew the steering wheel in the right direction), it comes off easily and without problems. It is set accordingly in the same way, but skill or an assistant is required.

articles of oil seals and rings here
Post has been edited by B.E.A .: 15 February 2012 - 13:21

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Good day everyone.
Ksar Picasso's car, 1.8 l. 2000 year
I noticed that the power steering fluid level began to decrease. At the next MOT at the informal, he told the master about it. The master said that he was observing the fluid flow through the upper part of the steering rack, where there are some “spools”: dntknw:

He refused to climb there, he threw up his hands about repairs, since I had not heard of any repair kit for this unit of such a machine .. except to change the entire rail. This is an ordinary service station, they were initially rather wary of Citroen.

I also advised to add a metal conditioner when adding a metal conditioner (like this:
), said that there were many cases of fixing a similar problem for many clients on different machines.

Experienced - what can you suggest or comment on this issue?
Thanks in advance.

I had the same garbage about 5 years ago, the reason is the development of the slide valve assembly on the shaft, the price of the assembly is 3-4 thousand UAH (original), the price of the rail is 5-5.5 thousand UAH. (not original). I then decided the question by replacing the stuffing box with a smaller inner diameter (I warn you right away, the spool assembly is not collapsible, I will have to remove the rolling, the turner neatly cut it off for me). But it lasted for 3 years and again began to leak, while there were 50-100 grams per month, I did not pay attention, but when a liter was poured in a week, the question became an edge))). Again, removing the rail, disassembling, but now the oil seal itself has sunk a little lower (even it itself had to be cut a little in height). The development on the shaft is already serious, about 1.5-2 mm, further repair will most likely be impossible.

P.S. I will also say that the root cause of such a misfortune appears long before the leakage, it is a bad mud-protecting gland-cover on the spool assembly of the rail, it becomes tanned over time and bursts, as a result of dirt on the shaft and production.

P.P.S. And if you are removing the rail, but you cannot do without removing, carefully check the condition of the anthers of the rail, often on Citroens one of the anthers can only be replaced when disassembling the rail (I had to remove the rail again a week later, when the boot was brought, and this is 300-400 UAH).

P.P.P.S. I almost forgot, the aforementioned repair cost 500 UAH (work + materials), re-remove the rails to replace the anthers for another 500 UAH. The procedure itself was done at a garage pseudo-service station specializing in Daewoo (they say this is generally a sore spot for them).

Good luck! Repair, there is a maintainability reserve!

The fact that Citroen Xsara is popular, both among ordinary people and the powerful, is evidenced by the fact that the President of France Francois Hollande was inaugurated in this domestic-made car, which he considers his favorite.

Citroen Ksara really

reflects all the features of the French mentality - the French do not suffer from gigantism, trying to hide some complexes behind their large size. They love comfort and easy family walks. And at the same time, as it found its response in the well-known film "Taxi", they admire the power and speed.

All this was embodied in the Citroen Ksara, a small family station wagon, produced from 1997 to 2006 with various modifications, volumes and power of gasoline engines and turbodiesels. In the latest version of the Citroen Xar WRC, Sebastian Loeb won the World Rally Championship 28 times in a row.

But if we talk purely about the Russian market, then the opinion of our motorists about this car was divided. On the one hand, the Citroen Xara captivates with a surprisingly soft ride, provided by suspension hydraulics, extravagance of the exterior and other positive qualities. On the other hand, the repair of most components, including the steering rack of the Citroen Ksara, is quite difficult to carry out in personal garages. And not every service station can make high-quality repairs, from which the rail will only last a short time.

The steering rack of the Citroen Ksara includes many elements in its design: an inlet, a spool, its bushings, an oil seal and a worm, a back plate, bearings, retaining rings, rod pistons, tubes, etc. The steering wheel is facilitated by the hydraulic booster installed behind the steering wheel.

Not to say that such a Citroen Ksara unit as a steering rack is a capricious mechanism. Together with the hydraulic suspension, the driver feels comfortable even on bumpy roads. The car runs smoothly, not reflecting irregularities with either super-strong shaking or kickback into the steering wheel.

The only trouble is that these bumps and potholes will sooner or later lead to the need to repair the Citroen Ksara steering rack. If you do not make an inspection in a timely manner, do not pay attention to signs of breakdowns, do not take them for diagnostics and repairs, it will cease to perform its functions today or tomorrow.

You are driving along a busy highway. And suddenly you realize that you cannot control the car. Rather, the steering wheel obeys you in a completely different way than before. It did not happen all of a sudden - knocks indicated some malfunctions, oil was flowing under the suspension, etc., but you did not attach any importance to this, thinking that everything would somehow disappear by itself.

You stop your Citroen Ksara on the sidelines - previously so obedient and suddenly stubborn - and go to a car service for urgent repairs. It also soon turns out that even towing your car there is very difficult for you. The steering rack is jammed, as the hydraulics "ordered to live long", and the steering wheel turns with difficulty.

What's next? Long repairs, which you avoided, ignoring the symptoms of the "disease" of the car, or a complete replacement of an expensive steering rack.

All this could have been avoided if you knew the signs and causes of a breakdown of the steering rack and diagnose and repair individual elements in time.

The following signs indicate that the steering rack urgently needs repair:

1. KNOCK. It is heard from side of the front suspension. Usually not ringing, not rattling, not creaking, but deaf. It begins to be heard clearly when driving along a straight trajectory, especially over irregularities. Decreases when cornering.
2. LIQUID DRAIN. It is difficult not to notice it for a motorist who loves and appreciates his Citroen Ksara. On a cursory examination under the front suspension, it quickly reveals traces of oil.
3. UNAUTHORIZED STEERING WHEEL. And this will be noticed even by those who are just starting to drive a car. The steering wheel in his hands will behave inadequately: spontaneously spin, stop, remain in the same position, if released, turn with difficulty, including in one of the sides - left or right, or in both directions.

Symptoms of malfunctions are a reason for urgently contacting specialized service centers for diagnostics and repair of the steering rack. The longer you ignore car breakdown alarms, the more expensive future repairs will be.

Among the main reasons that make the steering rack unusable are:

1. Driving on roads that leave a lot to be desired. From frequent and strong shaking and vibration, the steering rack looses, and the elements of the unit are damaged.
2. Wrong car operation. Not only beginners, but even experienced drivers make elementary mistakes, leading to a quick failure of the steering rack. These errors include:
   • long holding the steering wheel in an inverted state (it is recommended no longer than five seconds, so as not to set an increased load on the unit and the amplifier);
   • a sharp increase in speed with the steering wheel turned out;
   • sharp intersections or frequent arrivals on curbs during stops;
   • Exceeding the maintenance period, during which minor malfunctions can be eliminated in a timely manner, for example, wear of anthers.
   • Normal wear and tear of parts (rings, anthers, oil seals, etc.).
   • Mechanical damage. Even after a minor accident, you should pay attention to the operation of the steering rack. A blow in a collision with a tree or other car, in which Citroen Ksara was slightly injured, could significantly damage the elements of the steering rack, which will affect the future when driving.

Any master will contemptuously call a diagnosis in "handicraft" conditions a superficial check. And he will be partly right - without the use of testing equipment, it is impossible to accurately determine the cause of the breakdown. It will be possible to say only approximately. And knowing the reasons is already half of the repair of the Citroen Ksara steering rack. Therefore, it is better to carry out diagnostics in a car service, moreover, specialized on rails. Only in this case can we talk about the amount of repair costs.

Literate

diagnostics is carried out in several stages:

• removing the steering rack from the car;
• dismantling of the unit;
• cleaning the rail from dirt;
• initial surface examination;
• diagnostics at the stand with imitation of real loads of various nature.

During the process, adjacent nodes and parts are also checked, which in one way or another could affect the operation of the steering rack.

Diagnostics and repair of a steering rack Citroen Ksara

have two identical characteristics: both processes can merge with one another. That is, during the diagnosis of the unit, minor repairs and replacement of parts can be made. And during the repair, they are also checked.

It is better to entrust both diagnostics and repairs to specialists. Incompetent intervention in any vehicle system can easily lead to the opposite effect.

Rail repair work begins and ends with diagnostics. After all the work, the node is re-tested, which allows you to evaluate the work of the master.

The repair itself is conventionally divided into superficial and complete, and the complete replacement of the steering rack is also included in a separate line.

This type of work includes:

• cleaning and grinding of the assembly elements;
• replacement of a failed part (oil seal, piston, bushing, etc.);
• enclosure sealing.

Typically, this type of repair is aimed at eliminating fluid leaks and minor damage to the assembly elements.

• cleaning parts (this is a mandatory step - it allows you to see the wear of parts with the naked eye and improve the functional qualities of the steering rack as a whole);
• replacement of leading and auxiliary elements from the shaft to the anthers.

If a complete repair is carried out in a specialized center, the steering rack can be called remanufactured. It will practically meet the requirements for a new node, but the cost will be much lower than the new one.

It is advisable to completely replace the steering rack with a new one when the repair no longer makes sense - it will only delay the lifetime of the unit, not the fact that for a long time. In order not to pay twice, in this case it is easier to buy a new steering rack. It is also recommended to replace and adjust it in a car service.

If you, as the owner

Citroen Ksara, worried about such questions:

• How not to spend too much on repairs, how can you save money?
• How quickly will my car's steering rack be repaired?
• Where do highly experienced craftsmen work?

- then we suggest contacting our service center.

The final price of the repair is called after the diagnosis. On average, the cost is lower than in other car services in St. Petersburg. You will be offered a choice of repair options that allow you to purchase analogs or remanufactured parts, which will make it possible to save money without losing quality.

The work is carried out within the time frame agreed with you. The number of hours or days is negotiated immediately after the diagnosis, thanks to which it is possible to accurately identify the amount of work. If you wish, you can also order other types of work - changing the fluid, checking the camber, etc.

And, finally, our company employs only proven craftsmen with many years of experience who can give your Citroen Ksara steering rack a second life.

Continuing the theme of reiki!
Yesterday I was still digging around with the rail, and took pictures of something.
So so! There may be several sources of knocking from the steering wheel;

1. If gouged in the ball joint of the tie rod.

2. There is a gap between the rack rod and the rack rod drive gear.

3. Killed steering tips

4. There is a gap between the rail rod guide and the rack rod itself located on the passenger side

5. Steering cardan

Now we consider each item in turn.

Item 1. Rod rods.
The thrust was not important, one of them "died" 100%, had a backlash of about half a millimeter. With a slight movement of the hand, everything walked inside the ball joint. 100% knock source.

How to dismantle the rods? If the rail is still on the car, then it will be quite difficult to unscrew the rods without special devices. It is necessary to fix the rod of the rail using a special device

find somewhere the key with which the rods are unscrewed

and thus everything turns away

Of course, no one has such devices, only in the service. Therefore, I am writing how to unscrew it without consequences on the removed rail.
We remove the rail from the car, pull off the anthers. We take the rail almost to the extreme position from the side of the rod drive, in this way.

through wooden lining we clamp the rail by the rod in a vice

well, and then such a "garbage" we unscrew the traction without consequences

I didn't take pictures in a vice, my vice died, I went to a neighbor. I think everything is clear here.
The installation of new rods is exactly the same.

Point 2. Rail clearance.
Send it somewhere else if you are told that the rake is not regulated here. REGULATED. This rail also had to be adjusted. How to check the backlash? I noticed that there is play when the stem is in the “Wheel straight” position. You move it a couple of centimeters relative to the rail (as if turning the wheels), there is no backlash. Therefore, it will have to be regulated.
We take with our hand the drive rod of the rack, and twist it to the left and right, as if twitching.

in my case there was a distinct knock. At the same time, rotating, I tighten the stem, the knock disappears.

Conclusion - adjustment is required. Regulated with the help of such "garbage" which I cooked myself. On the one hand, the nut is 18, on the other, 17.

Twisting by the shaft of the rod drive, he began to tighten clockwise, until the knock disappeared. (One hand was taking pictures, so “catch up” with all actions within the meaning)

The knock was gone. I twisted it about 40 degrees. After twisting, fix, core, or something else is not needed.

Point 3. Tips.
Tips bitch, capricious weight. From them, knocks are also possible throughout the steering. Moreover, if a finger walks inside the tip, it pulls the entire steering wheel with it towards dying, so change and do not allow it. There should not be any backlashes, everything should sit tight and not walk anywhere. On this rail, the tip comes to an end.

Clause 4. Rail rod guide.
On this rail the guide is “live”. There are no gaps or walks. After tightening the rail, I checked it again. Therefore, it makes no sense to disassemble in this place.

Inside, there seems to be a type of "fluoroplastic ring" on which the stem goes. In the rail housing, this entire assembly is held by a retaining ring, which is pulled out, and the whole thing is pulled off.

Clause 5. Cardanchik.
Cardachik can also rattle. There is also a backlash in it. But he still breaks down extremely rarely. Solved only by replacement.

Well, that seems to be all.
We summarize the bottom line on what to pay initial attention to when knocking on the rail.

1. Steering tips.
2. Steering rods.
3. The resulting gap requiring adjustment.
4. The gap between the stem and the rail O-ring.
5. Steering cardan.

I would also advise you to pay attention to the stabilizer links, because they are tapping too. Although they have nothing to do with the rail, many can make a mistake, hear a knock, and where he comes from, hell knows (this is for the less experienced).

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Citroen Ksara cars are very popular. They reflect the traits of the French mentality. The French love comfort, power, speed and easy family walks. They are completely disinclined to gigantism, trying to hide the existing complexes behind their large sizes.

This information will make it possible to understand why such a steering wheel can be turned without effort.

The power steering pump is connected to the motor and works thanks to a belt drive or special gears, it depends on the modification of the motor. The power steering supercharger supplies hydraulic oil to the inside of the distributor, which is located in the steering gear housing. It is called a sump.

The spool valve controls the steering force and the amount of hydraulic oil required to make the steering rack turn. The torsion bar is used as a dispenser, which is built into the control mechanism.

When the vehicle is moving in a straight line or when parked, the rail is at rest. The hydraulic oil is located in a special container, the distributor dispensers are empty. When the steering wheel is turned, the wheels resist. The torsion bar spins with a force that directly depends on the effort with which the steering wheel is turned. The distributor channels open and hydraulic oil is supplied to the rack mechanism. Then the oil is distributed, so the rail starts to move. The principle of operation of the steering mechanism is important for every vehicle owner to know.

Driving accuracy plays an important role in this. After all, the more accurately you avoid road defects, the longer the steering rack will serve.

Signs, upon the appearance of which you need to contact a car service for diagnostic measures and, if necessary, a set of repair measures:

• the appearance of extraneous sounds in the rail - knocking, grinding. This indicates wear on the mounting bolts or internal parts;
• it becomes difficult to turn the steering wheel - it is possible that the reason for this is hidden in the steering rack or steering gimbal. After a while, a burning smell from the power steering may appear;
• the appearance of oil stains, which are located under the front of the car, indicates that the oil seals have lost their tightness, this provoked the formation of a leak from the steering mechanism or power steering;
• the vehicle does not obey the steering wheel - a fairly common malfunction of the control mechanism - the car does not respond correctly to the steering wheel.The cause of the malfunction is in the steering tips, electric power steering or power steering.

It is not recommended to restore faulty parts of the steering mechanism, because nowadays they are produced as disposable. The effect of such repairs is short-lived, in addition, the design of the entire control mechanism may be disrupted, which poses a safety threat during the operation of the vehicle.

Elements that make up the steering system can be ranked as one of the most important parts in the design of a vehicle. The safety of the entire car as a whole depends on them. It is necessary to try, at any visit to the technical center, paying a small amount of money, to diagnose the suspension and steering assemblies.

Pay attention to the appearance of recoil to the steering wheel when the vehicle is driven on a bumpy road. If the mechanism is working properly, all shocks are extinguished. If there is any breakdown, the steering wheel shake will be felt during the trip.

Do not miss such a sign as an increase in backlash when turning the wheels in different directions. It should not exceed a few degrees of steering.

Remember that any extraneous sound that appears in the car is the reason for contacting a technical center. After all, one faulty node is able to disable the rest with which it interacts. Therefore, regular diagnostics can prevent massive damage to steering and suspension parts, which can help save money.

When diagnosing, an assessment is made of the possibility of repairing the Citroen Ksara steering rack. If the rack housing has no cracks, and upon opening it it turned out that the shaft is not damaged, then repair is possible. If these malfunctions are present, the rail must be completely replaced.

The renovation work will take about two days. Sometimes there are exceptions. In the event of a rail malfunction, it is removed, the faulty units are replaced, and then installed in a regular place. If the malfunction lies in the hydraulic or electric power steering, the car center masters will also repair them.

The masters of our technical center advise not to delay the repair of the rail, because timely repair or replacement of a faulty vehicle unit can prevent an accident. Our center offers:

• preliminary troubleshooting of steering units;
• complete diagnostics of the steering system;
• repair work to eliminate malfunctions of steering racks, gearboxes, pumps;
• replacement of steering rods, tips, anthers;
• maintenance and repair of power steering.

We have affordable prices, thanks to which the repair of this unit of the car will be much cheaper than its complete replacement or repair at a dealership.

The specialists of our center will repair the faulty rail with high professionalism, completely restoring its original condition.

If you do not have the necessary experience and qualifications, do not take on the repair of your own car. This can lead to increased repair costs. As a result, you still cannot do without the help of qualified specialists of the technical center, where you will have to contact one way or another.

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