The comfort of driving a car is largely determined by the correct adjustment of the seat. Do-it-yourself seat repair Niva 21213. Meanwhile, this procedure becomes impossible if the chair frame is broken. Frame repair is a technologically complex process that requires knowledge and the availability of special tools. It consists of several stages:
Dismantling the seat from the passenger compartment and its disassembly. Prior to this, the specialist disconnects the wires of the airbag, heating, electronic adjustment mechanisms, and also removes the front stopper. Then the upholstery and plastic parts are removed from the seat, after which the master proceeds to identify the site of the breakdown.
Immediate repair. It consists in welding the frame, grinding the seam and straightening the frame structure.
Checking the seat for performance and its final assembly.
I took the seats from the transport company. Need to install.
The cost of delivery slightly upset, I thought it would be cheaper - the weight with the container turned out to be 72 kg.
The driver's got up with an offset relative to the axis of the steering wheel and the pedal bridle by 3 cm, somehow not comfortable to drive. I will redo it - move it back to the tunnel. You may have to cut the tunnel casing a little, otherwise it swelled up from vibration and noise. And so, the impressions from the seats are excellent - you sit like a glove: the back does not slip in turns, the legs fit snugly against the seat and do not hang in the air, as before, all thanks to the height adjustment. I didn’t measure the range in centimeters, but it felt completely lowered - as if on a puzoterka; fully raised - you support the steering wheel with your feet and you won’t get out.
Process and results in the photo.
Welded the front mount.
Welded the front mount.
Prepared rear skid mounts.
Prepared rear skid mounts.
I welded additional fasteners to the front frame in order to fasten them with 4 bolts to the native frame (the passenger one is screwed on by two, I think, to finish).
I bought it to clean the seats, otherwise they came a little dusty
painted and screwed the front frame.
The seats are installed. But ahead of the alteration of the driver's to shift closer to the center.
I did a fitting on the rear ones - the bottom will fit normally, without grandiose alterations. But with the back you have to tinker. I really want to add up 40/60.
trimming the left rear mount
cut the front mount and welded the bolts
front can be screwed in place
It remains to make a screen from the right side and sheathe it with carpet.
I will add only one thing - there was nothing complicated in installation there, cut it off, weld it on and everything is ready.
transferring the twist to the other side
now the handbrake knob
making the front frame
Installation of the dashboard "Lada comfort" for NIVA Making LED panels in Niva with your own
This morning I had the following trouble: the back of the driver's seat broke, I have to ride like on a stool.
Prehistory: the day before yesterday, the right side of the back became worse to hold, I did nothing, I decided to wait until the weekend. Before that, there was a problem: after tilting the back of the seat forward, it did not return well to its place, something stuck on the right side.
This morning I decided to correct the situation, threw back the seat, climbed back and straightened the seat back with a little effort (before that, the right side was further than the left). Then he sat down and drove off, less than a couple of minutes later, as the back said yok and the right side went back.
As a result, the metal part that connects the seat and back broke (goes diagonally). When I saw what exactly was broken, I was surprised at the effort that was required for this action.
Now, in fact, a few questions for respected nivovod: 1. What is easier to buy a driver's seat and find a used one and tear out a broken part from it? If you find a used one, then who has something similar? 2. Isn't it easier to buy Recaro seats? But there is one more question, I have cases with lateral support, for which I paid a lot of money. Will these covers fit Recaro's seats?
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Could the owners of Recaro tell me what to pay attention to when choosing a seat, besides convenience and all sorts of adjustments ??
FOR NIVA-VAZ-2121, Taiga, etc., seats front made in Germany, high degree of reliability and convenience, with additional adjustments, incl. Recaro. Price from 1300 rubles. Guarantee. Installation. t.236-85-35, t.8-901-754-15-38 1 shchipkovsky lane 23 in the building either an institute or a technical school
What kind of seats did you put on? From what model, what adjustments, in what condition, and how much money it cost.
: Changed myself there, was satisfied. Large selection of seats (in a wide range of prices). In fact, they pull used seats, a choice of upholstery. : : FOR NIVA-VAZ-2121, Taiga, etc., seats : front made in Germany, high : degree of reliability and convenience, with : additional adjustments, incl. Recaro. : Price from 1300 rubles. Guarantee. Installation. : t.236-85-35, t.8-901-754-15-38 : 1 shchipkovsky lane 23 in the building : either an institute or a technical school :
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: Hello everyone! : : I had the following trouble this morning: the back of the driver's seat broke, I have to ride like on a stool. : : Prehistory: the day before yesterday, the right side of the back became worse to hold, I did nothing, I decided to wait until the weekend. Before that, there was a problem: after tilting the back of the seat forward, it did not return well to its place, something stuck on the right side. : : This morning I decided to correct the situation, threw back the seat, climbed back and straightened the seatback with a little effort (before that, the right side was further than the left). Then he sat down and drove off, less than a couple of minutes later, as the back said yok and the right side went back. : : As a result, the metal part connecting the seat and back broke (goes diagonally). When I saw what exactly was broken, I was surprised at the effort that was required for this action. : : Now, in fact, a few questions for respected nivovod: : 1. What is easier to buy a driver's seat or find a used one and tear out a broken part from it? If you find a used one, then who has something similar? : 2. Isn't it easier to buy Recaro seats? But there is one more question, I have cases with lateral support, for which I paid a lot of money. Will these covers fit Recaro's seats? : : Thanks in advance. : : Ivan 21213. :
Or would it be better to tell after production?
Threat if I fix the starter on Thursday, then I'll either come to you or to the Wing.
: My experience is in exile. Now I'm waiting for a seat to be prepared for me in the atelier on Shchipka. : Alexei.
: : ZY if I fix the starter on Thursday, then I'll come either to you or to the Wing. +++ OK!
: 2. Isn't it easier to buy Recaro seats? But there is one more question, I have cases with lateral support, for which I paid a lot of money. Will these covers fit Recaro's seats? +++Recaros start at $300 and nothing will fit on them. : : Thanks in advance. +++ Not at all Sergei : Ivan 21213. :
When I bought 2121 with old seats, I wanted to find and put a seat from 213. But it turned out that they break with terrible force! IMHO, you need to buy a foreign-made seat of some kind! As for the repair, ALER has a lot of experience, I think he will tell you now.
: Hello everyone! : : I had the following trouble this morning: the back of the driver's seat broke, I have to ride like on a stool. : : Prehistory: the day before yesterday, the right side of the back became worse to hold, I did nothing, I decided to wait until the weekend. Before that, there was a problem: after tilting the back of the seat forward, it did not return well to its place, something stuck on the right side. : : This morning I decided to correct the situation, threw back the seat, climbed back and straightened the seatback with a little effort (before that, the right side was further than the left). Then he sat down and drove off, less than a couple of minutes later, as the back said yok and the right side went back. : : As a result, the metal part connecting the seat and back broke (goes diagonally). When I saw what exactly was broken, I was surprised at the effort that was required for this action. : : Now, in fact, a few questions for respected nivovod: : 1. What is easier to buy a driver's seat or find a used one and tear out a broken part from it? If you find a used one, then who has something similar? : 2. Isn't it easier to buy Recaro seats? But there is one more question, I have cases with lateral support, for which I paid a lot of money. Will these covers fit Recaro's seats? : : Thanks in advance. : : Ivan 21213. :
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Registered: 12/12/2004 Topics / Posts: 5 / 1412 From: Moscow Age: 53 Auto: VAZ 21214. 2004 year.
You fasten a square pipe 20X20 to the regular hinges of the rear seat, and already weld four hinges to it for two seatbacks. At first I wanted to do this, but then I thought, and decided that I didn’t need it.
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To the heap: Now I want to make the backrest generally in the form of a board with a width of 10 cm commercials (I will fasten it with standard “latches”). This is so that backpacks and other shmurdyak can be pushed into the gap between the seat and this “back”.
Registered: 11/14/2005 Topics / Posts: 19 / 584 Location: Moscow, beginning of Dmitrovka Age: 31 Auto: 21213 Bel 2000
Gentlemen, tell me in the next question.
The native passenger seat has ceased to be fixed - it stops when you push it back (to the rear seat). That is, the seat moves back, but is not fixed.
Previously, it seemed to be fixed in the rearmost position, but now it is fixed completely in front.
I hope I explained clearly. Who knows what might be there, I looked, it will be necessary to remove the seat and sort it out.
Registered: 06.10.2007 Posts: 106 From: Nizhny Novgorod Age: 31 Auto: VAZ 21213, year 1994
Registered: 08.12.2004 Topics / Posts: 62 / 1552 Location: Moscow, Northern Tushino. Age: 64 Auto: VAZ-21213, year 1998, 1.7 l, “snowflake”; VAZ-21213, MY 1998, 1.7 L, “tea rose”, GAZ-31105 “Volga,” MY 2005, “nautilus”
Registered: 11/16/2007 Posts: 687 From: Nizhny Novgorod Age: 58 Auto: 21213 - 1995
Registered: 06.10.2007 Posts: 106 From: Nizhny Novgorod Age: 31 Auto: VAZ 21213, year 1994
Registered: 11/16/2007 Posts: 687 From: Nizhny Novgorod Age: 58 Auto: 21213 - 1995
Registered: 06.10.2007 Posts: 106 From: Nizhny Novgorod Age: 31 Auto: VAZ 21213, year 1994
Registered: 08.12.2004 Topics / Posts: 62 / 1552 Location: Moscow, Northern Tushino. Age: 64 Auto: VAZ-21213, year 1998, 1.7 l, “snowflake”; VAZ-21213, MY 1998, 1.7 L, “tea rose”, GAZ-31105 “Volga,” MY 2005, “nautilus”
Registered: 01/10/2008 Posts: 23 From: Ust-Kamenogorsk Age: 39 Auto: VAZ 21213 97
Registered: 06.10.2007 Posts: 106 From: Nizhny Novgorod Age: 31 Auto: VAZ 21213, year 1994
Registered: 01/10/2008 Posts: 23 From: Ust-Kamenogorsk Age: 39 Auto: VAZ 21213 97
It happens that the slide compresses the sliding side surfaces and until you move them apart, lubrication does not help. I tried to lubricate such a sled - I suffered for half a day, sweated, but to no avail. dismantled, moved apart and like clockwork. and if the insides are wedged (the rubber bands wear out on the wheels), you also have to disassemble. for more than a year I have been repairing seats 213 (at my leisure), I met with all sorts. Usually it is enough to remove the dirt and lubricate well.
rather, the sled should not be moved apart, but compressed (the upper part of the sled, which is in the form of the letter D), over time, under the influence of the weight of the driver (or passenger), it moves apart in different directions and the sliding surfaces rub strongly against each other. You can see and understand well in the illustrated album “body equipment”.
Registered: 29.02.2008 Topics / Posts: 5 / 327 Location: Moscow, SAO (VAO) Age: 37 Auto: VAZ-21213, 1999, Skoda Felicia 1.6 AEE 1998, GT Avalanche 2.0 (2012), KIA Sportage Grand (2005)
We will show you how you can replace the standard, not very comfortable seats of a NIVA car with comfortable ones from Mazda 3, without the use of welding and special tools. When replacing, we advise you to remove the old sound insulation along the way, to clean the floor, anti-corrosion treatment, and just general cleaning.
For alteration, we need a grinder, an electric drill, 4 discs from a grinder, 2 drills for 8 and 13. A set of keys and heads. We also used 4 meters of steel 2x mm profile 60x40 and mounting hardware.
We start work from the front seat. We cut the profile to size and attach it to the regular places of the sled.
We remove the native mounting brackets from our Mazda seats, leaving only the slide. Having fixed the profile, we install the seat in place and mark the holes for fastening. We fix the finished guides to the regular attachment points to the body. To fasten the profile to the rear attachment point, at the upper point of the profile plane we make holes of large diameter so that the head can get close to the fastener.
Video replacement of NIVA seats with others, without welding:
VIDEO
In total, about 6 hours of time were spent on the work (done together) and about 7,000 rubles for the material, including used seats from Mazda.
Design and repair of the car VAZ 2121 Niva
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The front seats (Fig. 193) are separate, with individual adjustment of the seat and backrest. Each seat is bolted to a frame that is hinged at the front and lockable at the back with a latch. The seat can be moved forward and backward by 155 mm and an additional 83 mm forward when the backrests are folded into the sleeping position.
The frame 18 and the base 15 of the seat are made of strong metal frames, which are pivotally connected to each other. TO
springs 17 are attached to the frame. A head restraint is installed in the guides 6 of the backrest, which has a height adjustment. The seat is mounted on two slides 2 (Fig.194), which consist of guides 3 and sliders 5 stamped from sheet steel. The inner guide has a latch I On the inner slider, the handle And with a latch 8 is installed. When the handle is released, the seat is fixed in a predetermined position. To facilitate the movement of the seat, two rollers 4 and balls 10 are inserted into the slide.
Rice. 193. Seats: 1 - front seat back padding; 2 - headrest retainer; 3 - head restraint frame; 4 – stuffing of a head restraint; 5 - headrest frame bar; 6 - head restraint guide; 7 - seat upholstery; I - upholstery substrate; 9 - back latch; 10 – a bracket of a back of a back seat; 11 - the base of the back; 12 – the basis of a pillow of a back seat; 13 - rug; 14 - pillow stuffing; 15 - the base of the back; 16 – facing of a forward seat; 17 - pillow springs; 18 - front seat frame; 19 - front seat cushion stuffing
Rice. 194. Mechanisms for adjusting the front seat: 1 - the frame of the front seat; 2 - seat slide; 3 - slide guide; 4 - roller; 5 - slide slider; 6 - seat latch; 7 - cotter pin; 8 - latch of the movement mechanism; 9 - lock mechanism of movement; 10 - ball; 11 - the handle of the movement mechanism; 12 - screw rod of the backrest tilt adjustment mechanism; 13 - backrest tilt lock; 14 - spring; 15 - thrust
The backrest tilt mechanism is located on the outside. A rod 15 is attached to the backrest amplifier with a finger. To facilitate adjustment, a spring 14 is used. Thanks to the screw thread on the rod 15, when the handle is rotated, the rod smoothly changes the angle of the backrest. To quickly change the angle of inclination, you can lift the handle and disengage it from the latch 13.
The back seat is provided for 3 people. The frames of the seat cushion and backrest consist of stamped bases 11 (see Fig. 193) and 12, reinforced with crossbars. Hinges are welded to the bases, which serve to lay the back on the pillow and tilt the folded seat forward in cases of increasing the area of \u200b\u200bthe luggage compartment.
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Pushing the seat all the way back...
... with the “8” head, we unscrew the two bolts of the front fastening of the seat slide to the body.
Having moved the seat forward until it stops, with the same tool we unscrew the two bolts of the rear fastening of the seat slide to the body. We take out the seat. To remove the sled...
... with a Phillips screwdriver, unscrew the screw of the front fastening of the slide to the seat frame ...
...and a rear sled screw.
We assemble and install the seat in reverse order.
Dude, when I put the back of the seat in place after lowering, on the one hand the hook that holds the seat falls into place, but on the other it does not. Because of what could it be? Assembled in the same way as disassembled, it was necessary to change the covers
Is the back adjustable with a twist? I'm just trying to find out everything, on my VAZ 2120 what the seats are from. It seems to be from the field, but it seems to be from 2110.
It's good to have welding. You can do a lot yourself without contacting the service and without spending money.
Hello Something for a long time you were gone, finally a new video came out. I look with pleasure All on business.
Do-it-yourself VAZ 2107 seat repair, showing how to replace the locking mechanism on the seat. Attention with such a malfunction is dangerous to travel on the road.
I looked with pleasure because at the very 7-ka. Thank you
Please tell me, I have a mechanism that raises and lowers the backrest is welded, and I bought such a machine, in addition to everything, the spring came out of the backrest, what do you advise ??
- “I bought this spare part, it costs a penny - 30 rubles. “Yes, no, brother, it costs rubles, not a penny))) Well, it’s true, it’s not said in criticism, the video is normal. From personal experience: Somehow the driver's seat broke down on a 4-ke. The car is working, drove young, with purchased rights and a complete lack of locksmith skills. In general, while it turned out to be a relatively calm day, I decided to remove this seat and repair it. Took it apart, took it apart. YokLmn. it's just some kind of horror. I heard many times that the VAZ was g..no, but I thought that people just got snickered, went crazy with their foreign cars. It turned out that in many ways they were right. At least with regard to the seats - for sure.Kick-ass and fear of God are the most harmless definitions for what I saw. In fact, it can only be called a seat approximately. Everything burst and fell off that only theoretically can burst and fall off. By and large, native covers could be safely thrown into the trash, but the task of changing them was not. In short, it took half a day to repair the chair with the help of a grinder, a welding machine, ingenuity and a strong Russian mat, and still there was a feeling of monkey labor.
I just changed the comb, the teeth broke off, everything traveled again, it broke down, what can I do?
the video is good and easy to watch in order! and that's it, thank you! Let's have more videos on the classics like these. I'm just learning, but I'm already doing similar videos
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All Niva car owners know that the front seats are attached only on one side - in front. All this is done for convenience, as the seats rise to put passengers in the back row. To unscrew and remove the front seats completely, we need one wrench for 13, open-end or box, and for more convenient work, you can use a ratchet with a 13 head.
First, unscrew one side of the front seat mounting, where there are two bolts, as shown in the figure below:
After one side is unscrewed, you can proceed to the second, where there are also two bolts and you will need the same key for 13:
Then you can safely raise the chair and remove it from the car.
As you can see, it’s very easy to remove them on the Niva, it’s enough to have a key for 13 on hand and have 10 minutes of free time.